That would explain all those extra White Rabbits' songs then. If I recall correctly, I think my 500th review was Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here. I think I should save up a good song for my 1000th review.
I Hit 500 Months ago and now have 745. I Don't like to brag but I have the second highest reviews for an Australian Member but it looks like Hijinx and Irelander will overtake me soon. Have no idea what my 500th Review was. Last edited:
A lot of the elaborate reviews I wrote for White Rabbits are pretty positive - but other songs I might like better I just gave a 'perfect' or 'awesome' review; I was pretty inconsistent.
I change my opinion on songs after I review them, but sometimes I can't be bothered changing the review because it may be too insignificant (say, changing a review from a 1 to 2). :p
Haha, I'm almost at 100 reviews. I started out only reviewing my very favourite things, and giving them all 6's, but now I'm branching out into reviewing some stuff that I'm not massively in love with. I'll usually only review something I feel strongly one way or the other about, or something I see in the list down the side that someone else has recently reviewed. Or I might do several from one artist.
My average is 4.84 so I'm still fairly firmly a positive reviewer, but that is changing, I did write a review for my favourite song ever Riverside tonight, which obviously got a glowing recommendation.
LOL. Since I Have been inspired by Bluezombies nice review of Riverside I have delivered my harshest/nicest review ever to one of the worst/best pieces of music ever made. Last edited:
Thought I should bring this Thread back up for the sake of it.
Also, I know this sounds annoying but why is it that when I click on Reviews (On the left side of the Site under Charts Game) then Click on Australian Member nothing pops up. This has never happened before.
Lucky me... I did lots of reviews yesterday and I never counted them. When I logged in today, my profile said I had 499 reviews For those that are wondering, my 500th review I reviewed Michael Paynter's Love The Fall which just made an interesting debut into my chart today
Well, I kinda did like an "Artist of the Day" where I just pick a random artist and review as many songs from that artist as I could. That got me to about 400ish. Then, I just went to a random chart in 2007, 08, 09 or even 2010 and just reviewed every song that I had not reviewed yet (provided that I knew it).
It wasn't easy but I was able to get most of the Australian Reviewers and add them to the List above. I Have probally missed some names so if your name is missing mention it here and I will add it in. There are 37 so far.
Bluezombie has now offically overtaken me since my last post and soon AlleyT will do the same. 1 More drop after that and I'm out of the Top 5. Aw well at least I can live with the fact I remained in The Top 3 for over a Year. I Better get Reviewing if I want to stay in The Top 5. Last edited:
It's not often that I do 100+ reviews a day, which is amazingly still not enough. I'd like to hold out for four more days though so then I can say that I was #2 for half a year.
Speaking of 2000 reviews, congratulations to Bluezy for reaching said milestone. My counting might be a bit off, but I think #2000 was either Celine Dion or Scott Cain lol.
Ewww, I hope not. By my counting it was Brandon Flowers - Jilted Lovers & Broken Hearts. That's the reason one Brandon track was randomly reviewed among the 2002 singles today.
Congrats to you yourself Hijinx, what was your #2000? Watch out though, I'm coming up behind you!!!
Well, I did briefly steal third place from Hijinx, for like one or two days, but he took it straight back and has indeed passed alley for second place again. Congratulations must go to him for being the second Australian member to reach 3000 reviews!
thanks hijinx and to you too! honestly for some reason it doesn't show me an update of how many reviews i've done so i'm not sure what number up to unfortunately!
Congratulations to member #4 (who occasionally uses the name bluezombie) for reaching 3,000 reviews, although the fact that they've clearly heard the songs means that I'm disgusted that they have an opinion on them.
Over the last week or so i've been in the process of archiving 1996 and for the rest of this month it will be dedicated to albums released in this year
I didn't want to start a new thread, but this is awesome.
First, go to hitparade.ch and download your reviews as a text file, next paste it into Excel. Then copy just the last cell (the one that has your written review), and paste it into http://www.wordle.net/create Then post your results and weep at your vocabulary
A few random discoveries for me: The word 'track' appears in approximately one third of my reviews, more than words like 'the' I've edited 501 reviews and only put the word Edit in about 50 of them. I misspell 'repetitive' 24/56 times I haven't used the word 'IMO' in a review since May 2009.
When I downloaded the review file, it seemed to be a .exe file, and it just opened up in TextEdit as one long file, not something I could just copy the cells with words or anything, which is why there are dates in there I presume.
Can anyone tell me why you have to do 500 reviews just to add a song that should be on this site anyway.
It is one reason why I drift in and out of this website. I just dont get it. I understand that you dont want people simply adding any old song, but any track digitally or physically released song/album should be able to added with no dramas. How else will new music get heard when you can't even add new songs. I tried to do my chart last month with the new format, but cannot add new singles by Emily Williams or Casey Donovan. So I gave up and figured what use is it putting together my top 50 when 10% of my fave songs are not here, and unless I review 500 songs they wont be.
And let me ask everyone this, how many of you actually read all the reviews. I will be honest to say I started to but most of them are one liners just so people can get their 500. Utter waste of time. We could all spend our time on doing more productive things like adding songs from all around the world and creating a buzz that in turns pressures record companies to release more music here.
Anyway, thats me and my soapbox finished....for now
The obvious reason you need to review 500 songs is to filter out trolls. Imagine the catastrophe that would arise if anyone could simply join the site and add songs on their first day, it'd be chaos! For that reason, you need 500 reviews as it is a reasonably high number.
As for your chart dilemma, all you need to do is merely ask another member who can do it to add them for you. I'm sure they'd happily oblige. Otherwise just keep slowly chipping away at the 500.
But I think that perhaps you are missing the point. Why bother asking people to write 500 reviews that no-one will read? Where is the common sense in that?
I suggest that there should be other drivers to determine this. I for one could not be bothered reviewing songs that have been done before. Most of the ones I see are old and I say to msyelf, "Get with 2011". But then i reliase they are going back in time to get what they need. We should be going forward and allowing new music on here.
Where is the other option for us non-reviewers? There should be otehr drivers that we could follow.
And what is the point of asking other people to add songs. If it is so taboo to add a song becuase I am not qualified, then there would a breach of security if you ask someone else to do it. But if in fact it is okay to get other people to do it, then just open it up to people who have been memebrs for 12 mths or more. Thats a good solution. And if someone starts not folliwng the rules, ban them from doing it.
C'mon everyone, this is a website for music lovers. Let the music be heard!
We are all missing out on finding out about brand new music from her and overseas, because someone made a rule that you have spend hours reviewing songs that you probably dont even like to get ones you like on the database.
trent74: There are some people who asked me to have access to add songs and I manually activated them, as I did for you now. Please follow exactly the rules how to add songs.
I love reviewing! People do read each other's reviews, and 500 reviews is not that much once you get started. What else do you suggest as the qualification task? 12 months membership definitely doesn't work, all someone has to do is hibernate for a year and then add songs. Any spammers can do that - and personally, 12 months is kinda too long, if you're motivated to do reviews quicker etc. You'd have to work out a combination between membership time, post count, post validity/relevancy, etc.
If you have an idea of how else the qualification to add songs can be done, go ahead and suggest something, but 500 reviews is the best I can think of. Steffen can always do special adding requests too for under 500's and stuff.
Hey Trent, I am totally with you. I pop on here so infrequently now. I just could not get that rule, very stupid to me. 392414 - I like how you have asked how else could someone qualify? But I'll ask why should someone qualify. If someone is doing the wrong thing then they get banned, or pivileges taken away. EASY!
I do agree with Trent's comments about this site being for music lovers. I used to login & see everyones charts for new songs. But as some people are not able to add their new songs I have noticedpeoples charts are looking very similar due to the restriction of songs to choose from.
If the rules can be reviewed great, but otherwise I dont have the time to review 500 songs. I wish I did, I really do.
Duly noted everyone. I will not mention this again. thanks Steffen for your help and Cooney for your comments. I will email you as i remember your charts and you had some awesome songs, have not seen you on here for a while
Cooney, you can't just give it to everyone automatically. That would make it so easy for any random person to sign up and add hundreds of fake songs. It would be a massive workload for the admins to ban all the users, and plus, if there's no big qualifier, there's nothing stopping hackers from creating another account.
I do understand your point, and lowering the mark may be a possibility, but at the moment, I think 500 reviews is the best way for it to work well and stay under control.
Regarding your comment that people's charts are looking very similar due to the restriction of songs to choose from, a lot of people on this site do have 500 reviews and such privileges. Most songs will get added in due time anyway, this site's database is massive. Plus, it's always easy to PM a person who can if you can't and they can add that song for you.
I haven't seen anything of this sort anyway though, most people have been doing personal charts since before the archives came in, so why would they let the database's slight limitations limit them? I know that if it was me in this problem, I'd just skip that song and either have a top 49 that week, or put something ridiculously old so that it's obvious it's a filler. You can always mention it in the commentary anyway, right?
I'd just like to point out that since the change in format in the ACW such that people are making lists using only the site database, there has been a noticable increase in diversity. Last year, the #1 song appeared in about 70-80% of lists, and now it's down to about 50%, quite a noticable decrease. Basically I'm asking for evidence on this hypothesis that people's charts are becoming similar, which if it were true, I'd attribute it more to people recommending music.
I don't have such pressures personally. In response to this argument, I just think it's too risky. Sure, people who are legitimate but have less than 500 reviews suffer - but this site can sadly attract trolls and there is no avoiding that.
Just worked out that Weird Al Yankovic - Girls Just Wanna Have Lunch is my 4000th review. Last edited:
Good thought Alley, still would be an effort but more obtainable for those working and studying full time (I cant remember the last time I got to sleep lol)
I know I have only been on here for about 6 months, so am happy with whatever you guys do. Everyone on heere seems really nice, so well done too all.
Trent, jsut sent you a text, chat soon :-)
So who is loving the Titus Jones remix "I Wanna Bulletproof Dancer"? Fave mix of 2011!!! check it out. It blends Bulletproof, Love Story, Dancing On My own and I wanna Dance With Somebody. Pure class!
Congratulations to Lifter for reaching 2000 reviews. It seems a long time ago now, but you were once what seemed like a long way ahead of me. Last edited:
Congratulations must go to Bethjinx, who has now amassed 7,000 reviews. Obviously, it's irrelevant, but I guess it still deserves a mention as there are even less relevant members/charts on here.
I haven't checked personally, but I assume a certain fan of ship propellers did something silly and insignificant like... BREAK 5 DIGITS!!!!! Last edited:
Well done BZ again. liam99 has hit 1000 reviews, with him claiming the Western Bulldogs theme song as his 1000th, when it was actually Kings of Leon - Notion
I believe tonight I hit 500 reviews. If I did my maths correctly, my 500th review was I Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston. It's now time to re-enter the ACW
Main post removed while I try to figure out a better way to clarify my intent
I'm probably wrong and no one is doing this, but I had to get this out of my system.
Edit: Just to re-clarify, I am not singling out or attacking any specific person, this is more of the kind of thing where I say this thing unspecifically so that the person reading this feels guilty for what they've done, and potentially changes their stance. That was the sole intention of this post. I am not attacking you, just stop reviewing dishonestly.
Seriously, don't take offense to this post!!!!!
like, really, I don't know how many smileys it would take to get my point, but just imagine there are a lot, I am not trying to attack anyone!!! Last edited:
I understand what you mean. I'm not always online, so sometimes I'm just youtubing songs from albums and then I catch up with reviews when I log on. Well, "no one is doing this" just needs to refer to my chart commentary this week. But yeah
Guilty conscience much? Stop doing it and perhaps you won't feel like it's about you. And feel free to post as your member name to question, rather than pretending to be a guest who in no way would ever care.
The difference is that the person has at least heard the song in full once, as opposed to hearing less than a quarter of the song. It is different. It's not like these reviews are or should be taken as gospel, but what's the point of reviewing something you haven't heard, other than to be a dick. Same point as posting without using your member name I guess. Last edited:
Is that what we're saying? Are we actually attacking guests? Really?
Guests can't review songs either, so therefore would not have an interest in how other people review. So why do you care, member posing as guest? Enlighten us.
Do we really need to be attacking guests and members over anything at this forum? Doesn't really make the place a welcoming environment for people contemplating joining us. Or even encouraging members to stay around if we are going to be so authoritarian over the way people behave at this site. Last time I checked there were no rules at this place for us to follow or some sort of contract with obligations we agreed to follow.
Perhaps we should have some rules. Surely the expectation that people have heard something before they review it is a good one. Otherwise I could go and review every song on the database just to say I have the most reviews of everyone on the site.
A far bigger problem is members posting as guests with different names, to hide their identity when trying to create conflict. This simply encourages people to log out and then post under a fake name to bash someone they don't like or disagree with. Surely you'd agree this is worse?
I just personally feel that lately our little site has lost the purpose of its existence and it has deteriotated into playground banter. And yes I admit at times I have fallen into the banter, so I'm just as guilty as others. I think it is time we all looked at ourselves and the way we are treating each other and each other's opinions, musical taste and attitude to the site. We need to be more respectful to each other. And if that paints me as an optimistic fool than so be it, but I do prefer this site when it is a happy place and not a place for put downs.
One of the reasons I deleted all my reviews was that people keep attacking anyone that doesn't share the same view as them. Something that has permeated through this whole website to its great detriment. Surely the review section should just be about your opinion on that song not your opinion about someone elses opinion.
I agree Billy, I'd love for the site to be a happy place. And a lot of the time I feel it is, though I do see how it could be a bit cliquey. At the same time, wherever you are on the net, there are going to be trolls. We just have to learn not to feed them, and certainly learn not to use their tricks. Is posing as a guest really the best way to get any message across?
If only, wlv. Unfortunately people are far too protective and defensive of their own opinion, and care too much whether others agree.
Not only did I remove my reviews, but also my charts and most of my contributions to the site (obviously I didn't remove all those ACW charts that I calculated), mainly because this negative atmosphere became too annoying. People can't ask questions without being shot down, if you aren't in on the joke you are either ignored or laughed at and as Billy said there is nothing to encourage new members.
I know there is a lot of stupidity and my whinges here reflect the internet and forums on a whole, but once in a while I wish people would reread what they say before they hit the submit button. If you wouldn't say it to someone's face why should you say in a forum where body language and tone are removed from the context.
I see where you're coming from, most certainly. I do think it'd be intimidating to try and come in as a new member as it is anywhere, but I still feel that for the most part everyone is pleasant and welcoming. There are just a few bad seeds who do the wrong thing, and I guess it depends how much weight and importance you attach to them as to whether it spoils the site for you or not.
I can handle the slagging of peoples taste, if it's jokingly stated, but when it's a serious bad-mouthing towards someone I think it ruins things. I love this site because it gives you a chance to socialize with people with similar taste to you, and with completely different taste. As far as slagging off reviews by someone, thats just ridiculuous to do. They have their opinion, you don't have to agree.
Clearly the member posing as a guest doesn't want to reveal who they are, because they will get abused. When the site makes them resort to that, it says it all.
I agree that people shouldn't review a song when they havent heard it in full.
Unfortunately, this is the internet. And whatever we may try to implement, it's just basically impossible to create a place free from negativity and disrespect while being on the internet. I know I'm guilty of most of the things mentioned on this page, I'm not trying to hide that, but on the internet, people feel like they can get away with anything, which is not an option in most real-life 'equivalent' situations. There will always be trolls, hate, in-jokes, anything like that wherever you go online.
What I must say though is that this place is not as bad as some of you are making it out to be. I've definitely visited much more unfriendly places. There aren't any exclusive 'cliques' or such on this site, and I don't think we've ever had a banned member (not counting full-on trolls, obviously). I don't think we're all that unwelcoming to new members.
It might be an idea to collaboratively come up with a list of guidelines or rules for this forum as well as a FAQ page, as that would definitely be helpful in determining what is 'acceptable' and what not in the former's case, and helping new members 'acclimatize,' if that's the correct word, to this site's atmosphere and general way of running. That still wouldn't eliminate any disrespect or negativity on the forum, though, so it's not really a necessity for the future.
I know that I am guilty of some of these things too, like reviewing samples. But really it's an opinion whether you decide to review based on a whole listen or a sample or not isn't it. I didn't always do it in fact only rarely. I know that it is not an attack on me but it seems a bit unfair that I'm being judged. But after this I won't ever do it again even though I only did it rarely.
As a long time poster on this site I have seen it slowly change from a factual place with less posters into a place with irrelevent Pesronal Charts and other Random Threads that make the site look messy as more and more members joined. Over time the maturity of the site has really plummeted and I have seen some long time posters leave the site because of it. Perhaps one way to help reduce this problem is that before you join as a member a list of things you must not do like bully or spam and that of you do these things you will be instantly banned. For Guests they get just get 1 warning and then if they bully or spam a 2nd time remove their IP Adresses. It always happens, where as the site gets more and more members the maturity goes down. Another things I was thinking of was to create a whole other website just for our personal Charts that is linked to this one to help keep the sites main purpose intact and the personal Charts away from the latest 50 Threads. I think that would be 1st step in getting the site back to it's former glory but that's my opinion so it's up to us whether or not anything is done about it. Last edited:
I don't think it's opinion (?) whether you decide to review based on a sample or a whole listen. It's up to you what you decide to do, but you really shouldn't be reviewing based on a sample, the reviews are for reviews of the track, not for 30 seconds of the track. Anyway, I've said my piece on that a few times already, so I need not repeat it. I'd be truly glad if everyone would stop.
The personal charts are not irrelevant in my eyes. They're about the music, which is what this site is about. They're a great way to generate discussion of music, and to open people up/be opened up to new songs you may not otherwise know. And without them on the site/in the 50 latest threads, there'd be a lot less discussion going on. I certainly agree about the other random threads. I may participate in them, but I'd be fine with them going too.
I don't think separating the personal charts from the main site would help, I think it'd hurt. Look back to the "former glory" days of the site, there are Chartifacts threads with less than ten posts, when now we have hundreds. Sure, some people are a little too self-obsessed and only interested in their own chart, but for the most part I think having the personal charts here compliments the site well. Out of interest, what do you consider the "main purpose" of the site and how does it suggest that personal charts are irrelevant?
Maturity may have gone down a little on the site, but I think the site is more fun. We joke with each other and can have fun and enjoy each other's personalities. Some might take it too far, but again, most people are friendly and pleasant. That's my take on it all.
Everyone has raise excellent points here (well except for one, you know who you are ).
I find the site cool just the way it is however I agree that some members have bad attitudes towards other members and this causes a lot of conflicts, disrespect and this can build up to some terrible arguments and yes this site has had a few. CliffTheAmazing is one example of just how a joke, can severely affect the atmosphere of the site.
I still consider myself one of the 'newer' members (recently turned 1 year old!), so I haven't really seen anything that is horrendous, and 392 is right in that there are lots of worser things that can happen.
392 is absolutely correct on that this is the internet and this hate, disagreements and this sort of negative atmosphere happens all the time. I support his idea that maybe we should have an FAQ, that will be rather interesting.
I especially hate it when people attack other people for having different opinions, I would like to have that stopped but since I occasionally do it too, this would be especially difficult to minimise.
One thing I have noticed though, is that there hasn't really been any new members recently or that could be my poor noticing.
I really like the Personal Charts however I do agree that it makes the forum messy, along with the Discographies. If we could just separate them with the normal posts things would be much more organised, neater and a lot more user-friendly.
I find billbeast's comment very true: "Clearly the member posing as a guest doesn't want to reveal who they are, because they will get abused. When the site makes them resort to that, it says it all. " <- I think that's a serious issue that needs to be fixed too.
"Clearly the member posing as a guest doesn't want to reveal who they are, because they will get abused. When the site makes them resort to that, it says it all."
I don't find this true at all. If someone wants to raise an issue, I think in most cases they'll be treated with respect, not abused. I wouldn't ever abuse someone for disagreeing with me. However I have no respect for someone who hides their identity to try to make their point or cause conflict. Frankly, their opinion means nothing to me until they're willing to back it up by actually giving it while using their name.
All it says to me when a member poses as a guest is that they're trying to cause conflict while maintaining their member "integrity". The site hasn't made them resort to anything, they're just stirring. But then, maybe I'm reading it completely wrong and others do feel that way. I just can't ever imagine a situation where I'd disagree with someone and feel too scared or uncomfortable or whatever to say so as "bluezombie".
"Out of interest, what do you consider the "main purpose" of the site and how does it suggest that personal charts are irrelevant?"
The Main Purpose of the Site IMO is the Australian Music Charts. Anything to do with Australian Chart infomation whether it be ARIA or Airplay. Personal Charts are just a list of someones favourite tunes of the week and I don't know how thats relevant to the site. Maybe rather then move them onto another site, have them not included in the latest 50 Threads instead. That would probally be better, only thought of it a minute after I posted.
But I do think the there should harsher penalties for bullies and spammers though. As someone who has been attacked so many times buy multiple members I am really sick of it. Joking around is fun and makes things friendly so I think the best way to judge whether or not the behaviour is exceptible is that as soon as someone feels uncomfortable it has to stop instantly or they get booted off! Bullies have been around in all eras of Australian Charts.com history and has always been the sites biggest problem IMO.
I give the site a broader general purpose of just music, charts and discussion of each. Which is why I think personal charts are a good inclusion and relevant. But if we took them (and discographies!) out of the 50 latest threads, and perhaps had a new section on the left for updated personal chart threads, so it was still easy to see when they'd been updated? Like, it could go "Reviews", "Forum", "Personal Charts" and "Chat". Would that be better do you think?
Spammers annoy me and should be gotten rid of, and generally if you report it, the spam will be deleted and the member banned. As for bullies, obviously, if they're actually bullying, then there should be punishment for that too, however I do think that some people are a little too sensitive at times, and read things which aren't there. I'm not saying nobody has ever been bullied, but some people seem to feel like they're being bullied if someone simply disagrees with them. I don't think we can judge behaviour as unacceptable just for someone feeling uncomfortable about it, they may be taking it completely the wrong way. Perhaps try to sort out the problem first, and if that goes nowhere, then it could be taken further. Otherwise it'd be too easy for anyone to "feel uncomfortable" about anything to get someone banned.
The too sensitive thing is debatable but if the post doesn't look like an attack then you could try and sort the problem out but if theh post is an obvious attack then action must be taken.
The above comments are interesting. I have to say, I have been a member for about 6 months and I do not come online very often due mainly to the points above.
At first I was excited about this site. I love music and it was great to see other peoples charts and discover new music. However certain changes occurred soon after I joined and it is all too hard sometimes. I can't figure out the chart system any more. Apparently I have to review 500 songs to add my fave track for the chart. I personally have no interest in the reviews, as 5 words is not going to tell me much about a song that the writer either loves or hates. It is a waste of my time reading them and so I am not interested in writing them either.
I have actually met a couple of people of this site and we have become good friends in the real world which is great. But they also were newish to the site and were just over all the politics and name calling. They, like me, wanted to discover and share new music, so we do that between ourselves. I have discovered so much in the last couple of months. Trent74 is one member who has introduced me to Vanbot, Yasmin, Saturdays, Late Night Alumni, Inna and heaps more. I got more from the first catch up with him then the 6 months on this site.
If you want new members and have a 100% music site, then my suggestion is go back to basics. Make it about the music. After all, the music is what brings us all together.
Congratulations to Hijinx for reaching 8,000 reviews last night. I don't know if the 8000th was what he thought it was or not, but either way he's made it.
Congratulations to Hijinx for finally reaching 10,000 reviews tonight. And double congratulations for restraining from cheating just to get to a higher number quicker like some people are doing. I don't congratulate those people.
Looks like alley will be next to 10,000!
Also, I missed it until now, but Beanster has passed 11,000 reviews! Congratulations. I especially love that his total currently stands at 11,111. Last edited:
I don't know how many on here can have such high login counts. Even though they probably use the site everyday, it's still so weirdly high. For quite a long time, before reviewing became really popular I was #2. Like Chris A I only do it for fun now. Last edited:
Congrats hidgey. Love those latest reviews, I agree with the particular message completely. I've been stuck on 9000-something for a while but I'm slowly getting there
Also, aside from my personal charts, this thread is my most popular one
I remember reading on another thread about ppl reviewing copious amonts of songs in such a short time and some members complaining about this. So tell me how is it possible that yourself Hijinx and Bluezombie have managed to ammass 700+ reviews each in the space of 8-9 hours? You have a spaz at others doing this and yet you's do this, well congratulations on your 'pathetic' feat and don't worry i'm not bitter or even going to attemp to try and top that as i've got more important and better things to do. Just a bit weird how some members on here go up in arms about others then do themselves, just some food for thought.
Oh, I don't think I've ever complained about people reviewing ridiculous amounts in a short time, my gripe has always been people reviewing things they haven't heard (and I promise I have heard everything that I've reviewed today). As for today, it's just been for a bit of fun. I mean afterall, I could have accumulated these reviews across several months, just 10 or so a day, and no one would take a notice. I certainly don't want to start another argument in this thread, and I'm not trying to bother anyone so I'll leave it at that. Last edited:
04/06/2011 21:28 bluezombie delete verschieben Member 124.180.199.54
Perhaps we should have some rules. Surely the expectation that people have heard something before they review it is a good one. Otherwise I could go and review every song on the database just to say I have the most reviews of everyone on the site.
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To review that ammount of songs yeah it's possible, i just think it's improbable to review 700+ songs in such a short space of time and by doing this you's have made a whole mockery of the reviewing process. Jesus i could just start at A and review everything on site based on a memory from 1992.
Well yes, admittedly these reviews were pre-written (not the first time I've seen it happen and not even the most extreme case) but I absolutely assure the legitimacy. I hate fake reviews more than the next person, and couldn't write one if I tried, let alone hundreds of them. As the quote says, it should be expected that people have heard something before they review it. I know it's still happening, I think that's the real problem that's making a mockery, not this.
See the way i see it is a select group of members on this site are just bone numbingly self driven to admiration.
When i'm on here and reviewing which is reguarly i normally have my player going with excess of twenty thousand tracks and review as i'm going along with the songs, hell sometimes i use youtube as a cross referance if i need to remember another version or i'm archiving a certain topic. In the 7 years i've been on this site i've never seen this ammount of reviewing by a person, nevermind two. Sure the legitimacy could be plausable but at the end of the day it's just a silly compatition between Hijinx and Bluezombie to see who can be number one or the most popular. I'm sorry guys but i hate to say this, the site doesn't revolve around your popularity and i'm like chri8topher, i'm slowly losing my love for this site as it's losing it's heart, I remember him saying to me once.
I've seen in excess of 2,000 reviews, by one person, in the space of one day. But I promise this isn't just a pathetic competitive attempt, because if I really, really wanted to have the most reviews, I would have done it already, I just do it for fun. I completely understand what you mean about the site losing what it used to be about, but then I love the charts and more than anyone else try to tune in every Sunday for them, I'm sometimes disappointed if a commitment pops up and I miss them, though I do miss when there were more vivid discussions. The charts what made me find the site and stay on the site. I'm going to stop posting in this thread for now because I've said more than I wanted to say.
I wasn't going to respond as it seems like a bad idea, but you seem to want me to, so I will. I'm not going to argue back and forth, I'm just going to put forth a few points and that's it.
1. Well over a year ago I decided it would be fun to upload a lot of reviews in one day. The only way I could see to achieve this was to have a lot pre-written. The aim was 1000. So I started setting aside some reviews from things that I had listened to and gradually accumulated them until I finally reached 1000.
2. Everything I pre-wrote a review for, I only did after hearing it. There was/is nothing there that I didn't hear before the writing.
3. I'm not the first person to do this. It's happened at least twice to my knowledge and probably more. The current record is 2,222 in one day.
4. The quote of mine above has been pulled from a different conversation. I may as well go to an unrelated thread, find a different conversation and pull a quote from you that works for my argument. My gripe is and always has been people reviewing things that have never heard. I do not have a problem with people reviewing something they've heard in the past. Feel free to review every track you know based on your memory, at least you've heard them.
5. This is in no way a competition.
6. Nor is this about being popular. Indeed, I have no idea how reviewing would make one popular. I certainly have no desire for mass internet popularity.
7. This is also not about being number one. Next time you get past me on reviews, I am going to make sure to not pass you again since it bothers you so much. My aim was always to get there just once, not get there and stay there forever. And I got there long ago. But I'm not really sure what your qualm is, it half seems to me like there's some unmentioned, underlying problem. If so, please feel free to contact me about it, I'd much rather know.
8. I intend to carry on until I hit 1000. To stop now because you are unhappy about it would be like admitting I did something wrong, and I have not.
9. I have no intention of ever doing this again. It was a one-off for my own amusement. I could barely be bothered doing it even once, so I certainly won't be again. But I will be seeing this one through.
I think part of the reason why this situation has arose is due to the comments above, in which all of us have been talking like it has been a competition when in reality, we have been just joking around.
Just as a bystander I'll also give these few points:
1. If I wanted site popularity I wouldn't even bother reviewing.
2. The number of reviews you have means very little to me. All it says about people is that some have more time to review than others.
3. I half-kind-of-not-really-but-sort-of-do agree with zxcvcxz. Last edited:
I could be wrong but I think Beanster was also talking about the posts BZ and Hijinx were congratulating each other at "12/01/2012 17:57" and "12/01/2012 18:21" which makes it look like there was a competition between the 2 when really there might not be?
Well it looks like the majority agree, I may have over analysed this situation thinking it was not morally right to review in this way. So as far as i'm concerned everybody can do as they please in reguards to reviewing, it has nothing to do with having the most reviews because at the rate irelander reviews he would've surely passed me sooner rather than later anyway.
As for my arrogance zxcvcxz, feel free to speak up sometime instead of hiding in the shadows. And also when you contribute something useful to the site let me know then we can talk about my arrogance.
Nah hey Lifter, nothing competitive about that, just congratulating on a milestone, we've been doing it for such a long time and it just looks a little odd when they're right next to each other lol. btw congrats on 3,000
Honestly, I don't think review anywhere near as much as I used to. I did have a huge list of random stuff I wanted to review as I had placed it into my BOAT, but since I revamped my presence on last.fm, I haven't been reviewing as much I don't think. Personally, if I'm aiming for anything, it's for the next 1000, not for the next person above me on the rankings list. I could go on but it looks like the issue's been resolved anyway, plus I'd just be repeating everything else. Last edited:
Hehe Chris. I do have a strict rule for who I can be a "Fan of" though. I have to like at least 5 released singles from an artist. And by like, that means a single needs at least a 4 star rating (out of 5) on my site. heh
I'm sure I'll pass 230 in reviews one day (maybe sometime next year? lol). I'm just not big on reviewing a song unless I either have an interesting fact about it to share, an opinion about which version is better (if there's different album/single/EP/promo/original/radio versions), a chart fact about it, a shout out to a B-side if it's a single or a mention of a favourite remix of it. If I'm just sharing my opinion about a song, I usually try to inject it with some humour. I rarely review albums though. Not a big fan of them.
Does anyone have any idea why certain reviews are filed under the 'non-English' reviews area. I've noticed that some of mine have automatically gone there - despite being in English (I mean, it's the only language I can speak!)
I thought it might be incorrect spelling but there were no red underlined words so I'm mystified. Any ideas?
I passed 500 reviews on the 23rd February with I Don't Care by Fall Out Boy. It only took me 46 days. I've only got 26 more reviews to go until I reach 1000, I will probably reach it over the weekend .
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