Got this from www.novafm.com.au: #500: Rihanna and Maroon 5 - If I Never See Your Face Again #499: Metallica - Nothing Else Matters #498: Boy & Bear - Fall At Your Feet #497: Michael Buble - Home #496: LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem
#494: Delta Goodrem - Believe Again #493: Tim Berg - Seek Bromance
Is this an All Time ITunes List since ITunes began in the mid 2000's or only based on the last few years or something?
To answer Fudge's confusion Hips Don't Lie got most of it's sales from Physical Singles plus it's downoads were selling in a low selling year when Download sales weren't that high. Plus it's not like it makes any random re apperances in the ITunes Chart these days anymore anyway.
Look forward to the rest of the List. Last edited:
^ lol yeah, i thought so, coz it did well with its physical single. And just seeing like how chris brown's beautiful people is like one song above it, that probs meant hips dont lie sold only like 40 000 copies.
Who knows, HDL could reappear like when rabiosa is released here .
Chris Brown's Beautiful People is probably around the 55 000 mark in hard sales (though it depends when was the cut off for this Top 500) if the latter are as strong as the end of 2010, which is probably the case looking at accreditations.
Making this all time iTunes list is a really great idea because you can also see what songs have sold strongly through the past year. Amazing to see songs like The Scientist & Feel Good there. More 'old' Coldplay songs like Yellow or Clocks probably made the countdown as well. Guns N Roses' Sweet Child O Mine & November Rain will appear soon as well.
What Happened to Us will not even be in the countdown crazychris. It has had nowhere near enough sales to make it. It is not even gold. You must be looking at what her current most downloaded track is. Jess has one song left to go. That will be Saturday Night.
I can't see Poker Face being #2, simply cos it got the biggest part of its sales in 2008 and 2009 and iTunes sales have really got stronger in 2010 and 2011. I won't be surprised if Just The Way You Are, Grenade, Only Girl have outsold it. Dynamite, Love The Way You Lie, OMG, Sexy Bitch, Tik Tok and Fireflies will prolly be above as well Last edited:
As the aus-charts chatwhores excluding Hijinx who assumably failed in hacking neighboring internet connections would know I was obviously surprised with the list. Single Ladies #46, Bad Romance #38, Boom Boom Pow #32 and Poker Face #23?! But then [trovthread]I GOOOAA FEEEEE[/fail] at number one anyway. Was nice to see Dynamite make it so high, I didn't expect it in the top 5 at all, and was also good to see LTWYL not #1 like I predicted throughout half the countdown. It was also cool to have both Bruno tracks so high. I'd say overall it was still a pretty disappointing/subpar countdown as all the old songs were significantly lower than they should've been, but yeah. [/badendtoarant]
I have to agree with 392's rant. Really, Nova may as well have just played the 2010 EOY countdown, what with the entire top twenty appearing in last year's top 100. The pre-2010 songs were much lower than they should have been, and the chart was disappointingly dominated by songs from the last twelve months especially. It was actually refreshing that something from before 2010 still managed to get #1. As a whole though, I'd say this countdown wasn't worth it.
What do you suggest they should have done though? Not counting 'air nothing' as an option, should they have weighted the sales so that 30K in 2010 equals 15K in 2008 or something? The problem with that though is that it takes away the authenticity of the countdown, as while it is a better chart, the sales are no longer 100% real. And honestly, I think it's probably better to have this countdown, which I'm pretty sure is 100% correct, than a fabricated one which may be better but less true. What do you think?
What kind of countdown do you suggest? This will obviously give them a lot of publicity, and lots of people will be able to tune in during the Easter weekend as it's public holidays etc, boosting their ratings. I can't complain that they're doing a countdown of this topic really, as bad as it may turn out.
I think I do. The situations like Poker Face being so low I would just attribute to increasing sales, it's not like I Gotta Feeling was #68. Since it's coming from iTunes, honestly, it would probably just be ten minutes' work for them to produce a list like this, so I trust them at least.
OMG Firework outsold California Gurls!!! AWESOME!!! Innocent Eyes you were right with the PF. I way overestimated it! I'm surprised to see Boom Boom Pow, Bad Romance and Single Ladies so low, considering they seem to hang around the itunes chart forever.
20 Teenage Dream Katy Perry 19 DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love Usher featuring Pitbull 18 Empire State of Mind Jay-Z featuring Alicia Keys 17 We R Who We R Ke$ha 16 Sexy Bitch David Guetta featuring Akon 15 The Time (Dirty Bit) Black Eyed Peas 14 Yeah 3X Chris Brown 13 Who's That Girl Guy Sebastian featuring Eve (WAY TOO HIGH ) 12 California Gurls Katy Perry featuring Snoop Dogg 11 Hey, Soul Sister Train 10 OMG Usher featuring will.i.am 9 Firework Katy Perry (OUTSOLD CALI GURLS SURELY TOO HIGH) 8 Only Girl (In the World) Rihanna 7 Just the Way You Are Bruno Mars 6 Grenade Bruno Mars (I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S TOO HIGH) 5 Love the Way You Lie Eminem featuring Rihanna 4 Fireflies Owl City 3 TiK ToK Ke$ha 2 Dynamite Taio Cruz 1 I Gotta Feeling Black Eyed Peas
Can't say I'm surprised with the Top 50. I tuned out after #51 because I knew it was going to be boring.
Because I found this Top 50 so boring I have decided to post a List that only inlcudes 2008 released tracks and earlier. It may not be accurate due to year crossovers but it should at least give us an idea of how high tracks would have been had the List been done at the end of 2008.
(Despite 2008 now dominating the Top 10 still looks better then the other List) 1. Poker Face Lady Gaga 2. Hot n Cold Katy Perry 3. Just Dance Lady Gaga 4. I'm Yours Jason Mraz 5. Sex on Fire Kings of Leon 6. So What P!nk 7. Low Flo Rida featuring T-Pain 8. Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) Beyoncé 9. Use Somebody Kings of Leon 10. Viva la Vida Coldplay 11. Chasing Cars Snow Patrol 12. Shake It Metro Station 13. I Kissed a Girl Katy Perry 14. Apologize Timbaland featuring OneRepublic (Would have been close to #1 at the end of 2008) 15. All Summer Long Kid Rock 16. Sweet About Me Gabriella Cilmi 17. Forever Young Youth Group 18. Forever Chris Brown 19. Walking on a Dream Empire of the Sun 20. Bleeding Love Leona Lewis 21. Get Shaky The Ian Carey Project 22. Disturbia Rihanna 23. Electric Feel MGMT 24. Dream Catch Me Newton Faulkner 25. Live Your Life T.I. featuring Rihanna 26. Black and Gold Sam Sparro 27. Eye of the Tiger Survivor 28. Untouched The Veronicas 29. The Way I Are Timbaland featuring Keri Hilson 30. 4 Minutes Madonna featuring Justin Timberlake 31. Burn Jessica Mauboy 32. Pictures of You The Last Goodnight 33. Big Girls Don't Cry Fergie 34. When I Grow Up Pussycat Dolls 35. Stronger Kanye West 36. Sober P!nk 37. Let It Rock Kevin Rudolf featuring Lil Wayne 38. Thnks fr th Mmrs Fall Out Boy 39. Umbrella Rihanna featuring Jay-Z 40. My People The Presets 41. See You Again Miley Cyrus 42. Don't Stop the Music Rihanna 43. American Boy Estelle featuring Kanye West 44. Crank That (Soulja Boy) Soulja Boy Tell 'Em 45. That's Not My Name The Ting Tings 46. Closer Ne-Yo 47. How Far We've Come Matchbox Twenty 48. Kids MGMT 49. Love Song Sara Bareilles 50. How To Save A Life The Fray.
At the end of 2008 most of the 2008 tracks would not have been this high but aw well. About 173 other tracks from the Top 500 were also from 2008 or earlier.
According to iTunes' frontpage, nearly a year later, this countdown is back in the form of a top 200 over this upcoming weekend on Nova again. Good news for proud statistics freaks, bad news for people who don't like sales being used as a means to compare songs of different eras' success!
^ True. Most songs released prior to 2010 will have huge drops compared to last year's countdown. I'm really interested to see how it'll look like though. I think that the Top 10 will be more or less like this:
1. Party Rock Anthem (obviously) 2. Somebody That I Used To Know 3. Moves Like Jagger 4. Sexy & I Know It 5. Rolling In The Deep 6. Someone Like You 7. Dynamite 8. Give Me Everything 9. Firework 10. I Gotta Feeling Last edited:
1. Party Rock Anthem 2. Somebody That I Used To Know 3. Sexy And I Know It 4. Moves Like Jagger 5. Someone Like You 6. Dynamite 7. Rolling in the Deep 8. I Gotta Feeling 9. Firework 10. Give Me Everything
1. Party Rock Anthem 2. Somebody That I Used To Know 3. Sexy And I Know It 4. Moves Like Jagger 5. Someone Like You 6. Rolling In The Deep 7. Give Me Everything 8. Dynamite 9. I Gotta Feeling 10. Firework
I did purposely pick the same ten songs, but that's because logically, they should be the ten.
200. Galaxy 199. Bangarang 198. I Need A Doctor 197. I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho) 196. Sweet About Me 195. Lose Yourself 194. Just Say So 193. Don't Hold Your Breath 192. Blow 191. When Love Takes Over 190. Ridin' Solo 189. Disturbia 188. The Climb 187. Haven't Met You Yet 186. Gives You Hell 185. This Is Who I Am 184. New Divide 183. I Like That 182. Down 181. Love On Top 180. Breakeven 179. Bleeding Love 178. Hello 177. Barbra Streisand 176. Apologize 175. Sweet Disposition 174. Where Them Girls At 173. Alejandro Last edited:
Actually, it's about to start now I guess I'll keep the countdown listed in this post again for now
150. Rain Over Me 149. I Kissed A Girl 148. Nothin' On You 147. Black Box 146. Shake It 145. Stay The Night 144. Lonely Boy 143. Count On Me 142. Baby 141. A Thousand Years 140. The Edge of Glory 139. Take It Off 138. You Belong With Me 137. Heartbeat 136. Champagne Showers 135. I Like It Like That 134. What The Hell 133. Take Care 132. Saturday Night
Daniel's table at the top is updated, look at that instead Last edited:
50. Don't Worry Be Happy 49. Dedication To My Ex (Miss That) 48. Price Tag 47. OMG 46. Love Story 45. Hangover 44. Teenage Dream 43. Super Bass 42. Young, Wild & Free 41. S&M 40. What Makes You Beautiful 39. Sexy Bitch 38. Sweat 37. We R Who We R 36. Jar Of Hearts 35. Born This Way 34. Empire State Of Mind 33. F**k You 32. Raise Your Glass 31. The Time (Dirty Bit) 30. DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love Last edited:
1. Party Rock Anthem 2. Somebody That I Used to Know 3. Sexy and I Know It 4. Moves Like Jagger 5. Rolling in the Deep 6. Someone Like You 7. Dynamite 8. I Gotta Feeling 9. Firework 10. Give Me Everything Last edited:
10. Firework 9. I Gotta Feeling 8. Give Me Everything 7. Dynamite 6. Rolling In The Deep 5. Someone Like You 4. Sexy And I Know It 3. Moves Like Jagger 2. Somebody That I Used To Know 1. Party Rock Anthem
This top 200 countdown proves that sales in December to February were massive and that March had rather poor sales in comparison. Of course this is based on the fact the Bangarang and We Are Young both rank fairly low to those songs that were top 10 in January and February.
This countdown helps to make an estimated list of highest selling singles for the year so far.
The Crossover hits might not be completely accurate but by looking at where they ranked in the 2012 year end to what they are accredited with, I think they are around the right spot.
I still stand by my belief that sales in January where much, much higher compared to March. None of the top 10 songs in March (One Direction, Jason DeRulo, Chris Brown, Katy Perry etc) could make the top 200 list (even Fun and Skillrex had poor placings imo) and the cut off was the last day of March for the countdown.
In saying all that the top 25 songs for this year should be fairly similar to this: 1. Wild Ones 2. Paradise 3. What Makes You Beautiful 4. Sexy & I Know It 5. Pumped Up Kicks 6. Young, Wild & Free 7. Turn Me On 8. Don't Worry Be Happy 9. Boys Like You 10. Set It Off 11. I Love It 12. Ass Back Home 13. Hey Hey Hey 14. Hangover 15. Dedication To My Ex 16. Summer Paradise 17. Take Care 18. Lonely Boy 19. Count On Me 20. We Are Young 21. Brother 22. A Thousand Years 23. International Love 24. Bangarang 25. Call Me Maybe
Had a quick look at the chart! WHY is MLJ above STIUTK??? And also I'm really surprised to see Someone Like You below Rolling In The Deep and E.T. so low (although I guess it's just the one version that has been counted here).
It's a shame how many of the biggest selling songs missed #1 on the proper chart, like We Found Love, Paradise (which was surprisingly high I thought) and Good Feeling. I'm saddened by how high Good Night is and happy to see I Gotta Feeling well down on it's spot from last years countdown. Hope a similar drop can occur for Party Rock Anthem
Biggest drop out of the top 200 seems to be Get Shaky. I was hoping for some bigger drops though! Last edited:
K8, how do you know what the cut off actually was? While I understand what you're saying, you can't suggest from this list that sales in the past month have been comparatively weak. Remember that songs that were a hit one month prior, have had another 5 weeks where they could easily sell another 30,000-40,000 (probably more actually) if they lingered around the #20 mark. I'm sure if this were cut off a month later, then Fun. would be about 100 places higher. All things said though, this is just iTunes sales which have great variance from actual sales (very noticable if you compare it to the 2011 EOY list).
That being said, the utter dominance by Call Me Maybe at present suggests that you're probably right (I can't explain how this works, it just does!), but I don't think you can infer it from this data.
I'll be interested to see how it looks like. Here are my predictions for the Top 10:
1. Party Rock Anthem 2. Somebody That I Used To Know 3. Moves Like Jagger 4. Sexy & I Know It 5. Call Me Maybe 6. Gangnam Style 7. Battle Scars 8. Thrift Shop 9. Rolling In The Deep 10. Someone Like You
392's Nova iTunes Countdown 2013 Prediction Contest
Predict the top 50 songs, in order. This is the point scoring system: - 12 points for every song placed correctly - 9 points for 1 position off - 8 points for 2 positions off - 7 points for 3 positions off [etc.] - No points are detracted for songs 10 or more positions off.
The prediction contest closes at 10 PM AEDT on Sunday March 31. Memo your predictions to bluezombie to contribute! Good luck Last edited:
One curiosity I've noticed is that in countries with likely extremely low sales, the iTunes charts seem to start to resemble an all-time top sellers list. For example, the current Guatemala iTunes chart - https://i.imgur.com/dUyl7sk.png - features many huge hits from ~2012-2013, when sales were probably highest. My thought is that, like how sales from >24 hours ago count in the charts, just to increasingly smaller weighting (as occasionally seen with songs becoming Album Only slowly falling down for several days), once the numbers get so low that it can't produce a viable chart from current sales, it sort of defaults to all-time sales as a last resort.
There's a more at-home example in the Australian music videos chart. At the moment, the top 4 is current big hits, and then it goes into a random mix of recent and old, classics and barely-known, as you'd expect from a low sales environment. But then you get to #26:
26. LMFAO - Sexy And I Know It 27. Psy - Gangnam Style 28. LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem 29. Taylor Swift - You Belong With Me 30. Lady Gaga - Poker Face 31. One Direction - What Makes You Beautiful 32. Taylor Swift - Love Story 33. Bruno Mars - The Lazy Song 34. P!nk - So What 35. Eminem - Love The Way You Lie 36. Lady Gaga - Telephone 37. Christina Aguilera - Candyman 38. Lady Gaga - Bad Romance 39. The Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling 40. LMFAO - Champagne Showers
...and so on (bar about 2 random recent songs dotted between), which looks entirely believable as a list of all-time top-selling music videos. (Even relics like Friday To Sunday, I'm On A Boat, Starstrukk and Good Night are top 100; here's the full list for preservation: https://pastebin.com/rtyKPGwf )
So maybe, some years down the line, the same thing will happen to the iTunes AU songs chart. Probably not as I imagine iTunes will shut down long before getting to that stage in one of its biggest markets (if indeed sales were to ever get that low), but it's at least a possibility.
Sorry for the double post but I've just seen your post 392414 and you made some very interesting posts. That video chart looks very reliable as all time list indeed as I remember both LMFAO songs, Poker Face, You Belong With Me, Candyman and Gangnam Style spending a lot of time in the upper echelons of the video chart.
However, as you said, I can't imagine iTunes last if sales get as low as in Guatemala for instance. I imagine that the service will shut around 2020.
I imagine that the Top 10 kind of looks like this at the moment:
1. Party Rock Anthem 2. Somebody That I Used To Know 3. Roar 4. Happy 5. Let Her Go 6. Thrift Shop 7. Wake Me Up 8. Moves Like Jagger 9. Gangnam Style 10. Sexy And I Know It Last edited: