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Here is where we can chat about the ARIA awards.
BREAKING NEWS!

ARIA Nominees to be revealed on Monday 3rd October, at a press conference in Sydney.

The 25th Aria Award ceremony will be held somewhere in Sydney on November 27th!

After last years outdoor pub style setting at the Sydney Opera House, this year there is a need for major improvement and a fuckin decent venue.

GOTYE expected to recieve several noms, he already won Aria awards in the past anyway, boring!

HAVANA BROWN! Australia's first female DJ! deserves lots of noms! her single "We Run The Night" was a Top 5 smash hit on Aria, and peaked at #3 on the Australian Itunes Chart.
Her 2nd single "Get It", isn't eligible because it only just got released recently, missing the cut off date.
A performance from Havana will make the show more exciting this year, time for an album release and tour please.

I'm hoping for 5 or MORE! nominations for Havana Brown, for her upbeat dance song "We Run The Night"

BEST VIDEO
BEST POP RELEASE
BEST FEMALE ARTIST
BEST DANCE RELEASE
SINGLE OF THE YEAR

ZOE BADWI! the darling lass deserves lots of nominations too, especially for the underrated track "Carry Me Home", which is such a great dance song! that deserved commercial success, and a Top 10 peak.
I really hope she gets the recognition she deserves, 4 noms for her please.

BEST FEMALE ARTIST
BEST POP RELEASE
BEST DANCE RELEASE
SINGLE OF THE YEAR

Guy Sebastian will get nominations for his 2010/2011 overlap hit "Who's That Girl".

DELTA GOODREM! comeback performance at the ARIA's, something to look forward to this year, hope she brings back excitement and generates a ratings rebound for the show. She might be bringing her boytoy along to the show, as her red carpet date.

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DELTA Goodrem is set to make her return to the spotlight at this year's ARIA awards, which will celebrate 25 years on November 27.

Goodrem, 26, is expected to present and perform at the awards in Sydney and will be one of several high-profile guests and previous winners to be part of the ceremony.

ARIA organisers are tight-lipped, but one rumour suggests Elton John, who is in town at the same time, will host the awards.

The British singer-songwriter and pianist hosted the first ARIAs 25 years ago.

As for Goodrem, she has a special association with the ARIA awards - she won seven awards in 2003 as she was undergoing cancer treatment.

It is 10 years next year since Goodrem released her record-breaking album Innocent Eyes.

Goodrem's appearance at the ARIA awards will be her first foray back into the public eye since splitting with long-term partner Brian McFadden, as she prepares to make a comeback and relaunch her career with a new album tipped for early next year.

She is completing the album in Los Angeles, and has written many of the songs at studios in her Hollywood Hills home. It's not clear if Goodrem will be in Australia with her new boyfriend, American musician Nick Jonas, who turned 19 last week.

Other big names who could be at the ARIAs include Eminem and the Foo Fighters, both of whom are in Australia around the time of the Sydney-based awards.

Read more: news.com.au

Damn already?

If it's not too much to ask, can people try not to use this as an outlet to complain about artists you've never heard of, or radio stations that you don't listen to. Just don't be loud and ignorant please!

I'd also like to clear up the misconception (apparently) that an ARIA committee choose the nominations, or choose the winner. Both of these are voted on by a large sample of people, with little connection to ARIA at all. Read more at http://www.ariaawards.com.au/about-judges.php

I assume nominations must be getting released soon (today according to above post) so hopefully that works for the best and hopefully the awards make it to free-to-air tv for another year.



Oh and by the way Brandon, I think that releases can only be categorised in one genre even if they do fit two, though I may be wrong here.
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Jess Mauboy has to get more than Havana and Gotye. Hopefully she won't get snubbed like 09.
Brandon, having big chart hits doesn't give you Nominations now unfortunitely. You need to be in with the Triple J peeps.

Classic example is Vanessa Amorosi's constant snubs. Last year, #1 single, another top 5 hit, Gold selling album.... NOTHING. Not one nomination (well got a public vote nom, but that doesn't count)
/grumbles something offensive about Nova under breath
Nova is shit full stop.

Anyway, lets hope theres no de-butting at this years awards.
http://www.ariaawards.com.au/nominees/2011/aria-awards/album-year/

All the ARIA Award nominations are at the above link, or below...

ALBUM OF THE YEAR
Moonfire - Boy & Bear
Zonoscope - Cut Copy
Ghosts of the Past - Eskimo Joe
Rrakala - Gurrumul
2 - Grinderman

ADULT ALTERNATIVE ALBUM
Moonfire - Boy & Bear
2 - Grinderman
Midnight Remember - Little Red
Seeker Lover Keeper - Seeker Lover Keeper
Rain on the Humming Wire - The Panics

ADULT CONTEMPORARY ALBUM
Tangier - Billy Thorpe
Gathering Mercury - Colin Hay
Roy - Damien Leith
Jack - John Farnham
Undertow - Mark Seymour

BLUES & ROOTS ALBUM
Starvation Box - The Backsliders
Worldwize Part 1: North & South - Blue King Brown
Live at Red Rocks - John Butler Trio
Sometimes the Stars - The Audreys
Temptation - The Waifs

BEST CHILDRENS ALBUM
Dig it - DirtGirlWorld
Turn the Music Up - Hi-5
See! - Holly Throsby
Let's Play Together - Play School
Ukulele Baby - The Wiggles

BEST COMEDY RELEASE
Inflatable - Adam Hills
The One and Only Buddy Goode - Buddy Goode
Celebrating 50 Glorious Years - Hamish & Andy
Suprise! - Josh Thomas
Tim Minchin & the Heritage Orchestra - Tim Minchin

BEST COUNTRY ALBUM
Listen Here - Jasmine Rae
Little Bird - Kasey Chambers
Get Closer - Keith Urban
Bad Machines - Shane Nicholson
Live - Troy Cassar-Daley

BEST DANCE RELEASE
Bag Raiders - Bag Raiders
Zonoscope - Cut Copy
Illumination - Miami Horror
Soft Universe - Pnau
From the Music - The Potbelleez

BEST FEMALE ARTIST
Adalita - Adalita
Are You Ready Yet? - Clare Bowditch
Little Bird - Kasey Chambers
Cameo Lover - Kimbra
Holy Moses - Washington

BEST GROUP
Wild at Heart - Birds of Tokyo
Moonfire - Boy & Bear
Ghosts of the Past - Eskimo Joe
2 - Grinderman
The End is Just the Beginning Repeating - The Living End

BEST HARD ROCK/HEAVY METAL ALBUM
Ethereal Surrogate Saviour - Coerce
Glorius Basterds - Cosmic Psychos
Heartbound - Dream on Dreamer
FloatingMe - FloatingMe
Ritardando - Front End Loader

BEST INDEPENDENT RELEASE
The Experiment - Art vs Science
Rrakala - Gurrumul
Live at Red Rocks - John Butler Trio
Tex Perkins & The Dark Horses - Tex Perkins & the Dark Horses
Dark Storm - The Jezabels

BEST MALE ARTIST
The Life of Riley - Drapht
Strange Tourist - Gareth Liddiard
Rrakala - Gurrumul
Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra
No One Wants a Lover - Josh Pyke

BEST MUSIC DVD (longform)
Live at River Plate - AC/DC
Sunsets Farewell Tour - Powderfinger
Live National Tour - RockWiz
Man in Black - Tex Perkins
Triple J One Night Stand - Various

BEST POP RELEASE
Moments Bends - Architecture in Helsinki
Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra
Who's That Girl - Guy Sebastian
Gilgamesh - Gypsy & The Cat
Holy Moses - Washington

BEST ROCK ALBUM
Theory of Everything - Children Collide
Ghosts of the Past - Eskimo Joe
Kosciuszko - Jebediah
United in Isolation - Papa vs Pretty
The Ending is Just the Beginning Repeating - The Living End

BEST URBAN ALBUM
The Life of Riley - Drapht
The Chase - Illy
The Umu - Koolism
Babylon - Phrase
Marked for Death - Vents

BREAKTHROUGH ARTIST ALBUM
Moonfire - Boy & Bear
The Life or Riley - Drapht
Gilgamesh - Gypsy & The Cat
Great Barrier Grief - Oh Mercy
I Want That You are Always Happy - The Middle East

BREAKTHROUGH ARTIST SINGLE
Feeding Line - Boy & Bear
Rapunzel - Drapht
We Run the Night - Havana Brown
Dark Storm - The Jezabels
Freefallin' - Zoe Badwi

SINGLE OF THE YEAR
Wild at Heart - Birds of Tokyo
Feeding Line - Boy & Bear
Rapunzel - Drapht
Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra
Who's That Girl - Guy Sebastian
Dark Storm - The Jezabels

BEST COVER ART
The Experiment - Art vs Science
Tangier - Billy Thorpe
Zonoscope - Cut Copy
Rrakala - Gurrumul
Great Barrier Grief - Oh Mercy

BEST VIDEO (shortform)
Loveless - Children Collide
Love is a Drug - Eskimo Joe
Gopuru - Gurrumul
Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra
Cameo Lover - Kimbra

HIGHEST SELLING ALBUMS
Altiyan Childs - Altiyan Childs (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
Angus & Julia Stone - Down The Way (EMI Music Australia)
Birds Of Tokyo - Birds of Tokyo (EMI Music Australia)
Keith Urban - Get Closer (EMI Music Australia)
Various - He Will Have His Way - The Songs of Tim & Neil Finn (EMI Music Australia)

HIGHEST SELLING SINGLES
Birds of Tokyo – Plans (EMI Music Australia)
Gotye - Somebody That I Used To Know (feat. Kimbra) (Samples 'n' Seconds Records/Eleven: A Music Company)
Guy Sebastian - Who's that Girl (feat. Eve) (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
Havana Brown - We Run The Night (Island Australia/Universal Music Australia)
Jessica Mauboy - Saturday Night (feat. Ludacris) (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
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those nominations dont even make sense, also highest selling single is a public vote award? what even?

and where is havana brown, and jessica mauboy, and stan walker.

well actually havana brown is in the breakthrough single, along with zoe badwi - but still!

not liking this years nominations, should be another year that I dont watch.

I guess I'll be rooting for gotye, guy sebastian, and drapht to do well though.
Boy & Bear 6 nominations woo


I gotta say Havana Brown got snubbed, She should have been up for best pop release, single of the year, best dance release.


also why does the breakthrough artist category have nothing there?




I LOVE THE ARIA AWARDS! I just love Australian music full stop. I'm glad I didn't watch the diaster show last year though. Hopefully this year will be much better.

Who I'll be rooting for:

Album of the Year: Boy & Bear or Eskimo Joe
Best Adult Alternative: Little Red
Blues and Roots: ---
Best Childrens: Hi-5!!! DIRTGIRLWORLD SUCKS!
Best Comedy: Hamish & Andy or Adam Hills
Best Country: ---
Best Dance: No Zoe Badwi! The Potbelleez
Best Female: WTF! Is Kimbra Australian? Don't like anyone here
Best Group: BIRDS OF TOKYO!
Best Hard Rock: ---
Best Independent: ---
Best Male Artist: Gotye or Drapht please!
Best Music DVD: Powderfinger
Best Pop Release: Gotye (Gotye isn't even pop)
Best Rock: Jebediah please!
Best Urban: Drapht
Breakthrough Artist:
Breakthrough Album: Boy & Bear or Drapht
Breakthrough Single: Zoe Badwi, Boy & Bear or Drapht. PLEASE ZOE BADWI
Single of the year: Birds of Tokyo, Gotye or Drapht

I'm guessing Boy & Bear to be this year's big winners.
I am disappointed at Zoe Badwi and Havana Brown. The Best Female, Dance and Pop categories were terrible.
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Incredibly disappointing nominations this year. Oh well. These are who I'll for going for or against.

Category For Against
Album of the Year Eskimo Joe - Ghosts of the Past Boy & Bear - Moonfire
Best Adult Alternative Album  Boy & Bear - Moonfire
Best Adult Contemporary Album John Farnham - Jack Damien Leith - Roy
Best Blues and Roots Album  John Butler Trio - Live at Red Rocks
Best Children's Album  The Wiggles - Ukulele Baby!
Best Comedy Release Tim Minchin - Tim Minchin & The Heritage Orchestra 
Best Country Album  
Best Dance Release The Potbelleez - From the Music 
Best Female Artist  Washington - Holy Moses
Best Group Eskimo Joe - Ghosts of the Past The Living End - The Ending is Just the Beginning Repeating
Best Hard Rock / Heavy Metal Album  
Best Independent Release  Art vs Science - The Experiment
Best Male Artist  Gotye - Somebody That I Used to Know
Best Music DVD RocKwiz - Live National Tour Tex Perkins - Man in Black
Best Pop Release Guy Sebastian - Who's That Girl Gotye - Somebody That I Used to Know
Best Rock Album Eskimo Joe - Ghosts of the Past The Living End - The Ending is Just the Beginning Repeating
Best Urban Album  
Breakthrough Artist - Album  Boy & Bear - Moonfire
Breakthrough Artist - Single Zoe Badwi - Freefallin' Boy & Bear - Feeding Line
Single of the Year Guy Sebastian - Who's That Girl Gotye - Somebody That I Used to Know
Best Video  Gotye - Somebody That I Used to Know

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I like the look of these nominees (this is when you can stop reading my post ) I have to point out that I totally called Wild at Heart getting a SOTY nomination at the start of the year, but now I'd rather Gotye win it While I'm not a fan of Grinderman, it's good to see an album that actually gets a good critical response get recognition, I'm not going to complain about Geoffery Gurrumul Yunupingu either.
Meanwhile it's awesome to see Boy & Bear all over the place, though I do question the rules for breakthrough singles since Feeding Line was not their first top 50 entry.
Since this is an ARIA awards thread, I can't not complain, so where are Trial Kennedy & Calling All Cars' albums that I enjoyed a lot despite not being the most recognised in sales or acclaim for their respective genre?! The idea that the nominations aren't seemingly picked by me is an outrage!
And to extend my post further, also go Cut Copy, Eskimo Joe, Kimbra (yes there are well explained rules about eligibility, the first person to complain loses ), Birds of Tokyo, The Living End, Papa vs. Pretty etc, the website keeps breaking for me so I can't manage to look at all the awards.
And now my post is too long. Still, I might be interested in looking into some of these nominees I don't know well, after all, it's not their fault my knowledge in music is terrible

I think it's important to note that the three artists with the most nominations, just so happen to include the only two Australian #1 albums this year, and a #2 album at that, while both <P>4 #1 hits are in the single of the year nominations, who said anything about commercial success meaning nothing?
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If we're gonna whinge about who missed out then I would be saying Darren Hayes (of course!), Kylie Minogue, Jessica Mauboy, Sia, Pendulum, Sneaky Sound System and even Short Stack.
90% of the listed catergories on the link I provided above have now been added to that posting, so check out the full list.
Highest Selling Album

Altiyan Childs - Altiyan Childs (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
Angus & Julia Stone - Down The Way (EMI Music Australia)
Birds Of Tokyo - Birds of Tokyo (EMI Music Australia)
Keith Urban - Get Closer (EMI Music Australia)
Various - He Will Have His Way - The Songs of Tim & Neil Finn (EMI Music Australia)

Highest Selling Single

Birds of Tokyo – Plans (EMI Music Australia)
Gotye - Somebody That I Used To Know (feat. Kimbra) (Samples 'n' Seconds Records/Eleven: A Music Company)
Guy Sebastian - Who's that Girl (feat. Eve) (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
Havana Brown - We Run The Night (Island Australia/Universal Music Australia)
Jessica Mauboy - Saturday Night (feat. Ludacris) (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)

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MISSED OUT! on the two RED CARPET categories!

Bulion, please add these two important categories to the table, I believe that the public can VOTE! for these categories, the major categories will be voted on by the Aria judging panel.
HAVANA BROWN! will make the awards more interesting this year, bringing her hotness to the show, gosh I hope she attends and performs, will she?

RELIEF AT LAST! for Australia's first female DJ!

OH! I feel so relieved! that Havana Brown gets much needed recognition for her Top 5 smash hit "We Run The Night", which will get re-released for the U.S market.

YES! 2 NOMINATIONS! yeah she got snubbed in the Dance and Single of the Year category and the video deserved a Short-Form Video nom.

2 NOMS! and one of those "Breakthrough Artist-Single", will be announced during the live telecast, giving Havana a chance to deliver an acceptance speech, if she wins.

Out of the five acts in the "Breakthrough Single" category, she has a strong chance to win, due to her Aria chart success, and she is the only act in the category to have a single peak in the Top 5.

GOTYE! got 7 noms, he has won awards in the past, so there is no need for a clean sweep, plus he has the MTV EMA nom, that's enough.

ZOE BADWI! congratulations! on your Aria nomination for "Freefallin".
Although "Carry Me Home" was the preferred choice, it's good to see her gets recognition. She did get snubbed in the Dance and Pop categories, unfortunately. I;m hoping that she attends and performs.

A boring bunch of nominees in the Album of the Year category and why the fuck was SIA! snubbed. She is the lead vocalist on the "Titanium" track, from David Guetta's album, she still deserved a nomination, based on her vocal performance.
done Brandon
Highest Selling Single and Album are not publicly voted this year Brandon. They go strictly on sales as they used to do before ARIA mucked around with it last year. The Publicly Voted Awards are only for Most Popular Australian Artist and Most Popular International Artist and Most Popular Australian Live Act. Here are the nominees.

MOST POPULAR AUSTRALIAN ARTIST:

Altiyan Childs (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
Angus & Julia Stone (EMI Music Australia)
Birds of Tokyo (EMI Music Australia)
Drapht (The Ayems/Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
Guy Sebastian (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
Jessica Mauboy (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
John Farnham (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
Justice Crew (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)
Keith Urban (EMI Music Australia)
Stan Walker (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)

MOST POPULAR INTERNATIONAL ARTIST:

Adele (XL/Inertia)
Chris Brown (Jive/Sony Music Australia)
Jennifer Lopez (Universal Music Australia)
Jessie J (Universal Music Australia)
Ke$ha (RCA Records/Sony Music)
Lady Gaga (Universal Music Australia)
LMFAO (Universal Music Australia)
P!nk (La Face/Sony Music Australia)
Pitbull (J Records/Sony Music Australia)
Rihanna (Universal Music Australia)

There are no nominees for Most Popular Australian Live Act. You can vote for anyone who has performed in concert during the eligibility period.

http://www.thevine.com.au/music/news/aria-award-nominees-announced-for-201120111012.aspx

The voting can be done via this link.

http://www.ariaawards.com.au/news/10/music-fans-have-their-say-in-this-years-awards

I'm not complaining just what clarification. When Gotye released his massive single all references to Kimbra were that she ws a NZ artist. Now she is up for an ARIA Award. Is she one of those NZ artists who has relocated to Australia and is now considered an Australian artist even if NZ keeps owning her (like Stan Walker or Margaret Urilch). I only ask cause after years of being considered Australian, Crowded House were deemed non-Australian when an Aussie left the group.

Every year ARIA seems to do bizarre things with their Australian quotient (eg Brian McFadden and Natasha Bedingfield). It's almost enough for me to question why Eve wasn't eligible for the noms. I really think that perhaps ARIA needs to change their wording so only Australian citizens can be considered Australian artist and not include random Australian residents. Cause at the moment there is too much blurring of the lines for my liking

In regards to the actual noms I gave up investing in these awards about a decade ago and now it is just with random interest I pay attention. But I blame that on me being out of the loop of what is fashionable in music and for having 'old' person's musical taste.
I am under the impression that Kimbra has resided in Australia for most of, if not all of this year, which passes the qualification I believe, though it does provide an interesting scenario as the ARIA charts do not consider her Australian.

Also Artisan Award winners

Engineer/Producer/Video: Somebody That I Used To Know
Cover Art: Zonoscope (Cut Copy)

CATEGORYWHO WILL WINWHO IMO SHOULD WIN
Album of the YearBoy & BearBoy & Bear, Eskimo Joe
Best Adult AlternativeSeeker Lover KeeperLittle Red, Boy & Bear
Best Adult ContemporaryBilly ThorpeBilly Thorpe, Damien Leith
Blues and RootsThe WaifsThe Waifs, JBT
Best ChildrensThe WigglesThe Wiggles, Holly Throsby
Best ComedyTom MinchinAdam Hills
Best CountryKasey ChambersKasey Chamber, Keith Urban
Best DanceThe PotbelleezThe Potbelleez, Bag Raider
Best FemaleClaire BowditchWashington
Best GroupBirds of TokyoBirds of Tokyo, Eskimo Joe, The Living End
Best Hard Rock??????
Best IndependentThe JezabelsArt vs Science
Best Male ArtistGotyeGotye, Drapht
Best Music DVDPowderfingerPowderfinger
Best Pop ReleaseGotyeGuy Sebastian, Gotye
Best RockJebediahEskimo Joe, The Living End
Best UrbanDraphtDrapht, Illy
Breakthrough ArtistTBCTBC
Breakthrough AlbumDraphtDrapht, Boy & Bear
Breakthrough SingleDraphtHavana Brown, Zoe Badwi
Single of the YearGotyeGotye, Drapht
Highest Selling SingleGotyeGuy Sebastian, Gotye
Best Cover ArtOh MercyCut Copy, Billy Thorpe
Best VideoGotyeThis one is a let down, should've been more
Engineer of the YearGotyeEskimo Joe, Josh Pike
Producer of the YearGotyeDrapht, Billy Thorpe
Best Classical AlbumKarin Schaupp & Flinders Quarter???
Best Jazz AlbumElixir???
Best Original Soundtrack...AlbumSnowtownAngry Boys, Mary Poppins
Best World Music AlbumGurrumulGurrumul
Highest Selling SingleGoyteGotye, Guy Sebastian
Best International ArtistAdeleAdele, LMFAO

Artists who got snubbed IMO - Jessica Mauboy, Zoe Badwi, Pete Murray, Havana Brown, Stan Walker, 360, Sparkadia

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Cheers Hijinx for the explanation. Kinda makes you wonder why Pink wasn't nominated for the year she spent in Australia
This year might be OK
Hello TravD!

No Havana and Zoe both didn't get snubbed.

Zoe Badwi recieved 1 nomination and Havana Brown got 2 nominations!
I know, I meant in categories such as Pop, Best Female, etc. >1
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Why isn't Vanessa Amorosi nominated for "Gossip"?
The Noms this Year don't seem so bad. Glad they brought the highest selling catergorys back as they were the main reason I watch. Looks better then last year already. They need to be good for it's 25th Annerversary.
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Who's That Girl will win the Highest Selling Single Award if ARIA have done their sums correctly. The eligibility period for the sales awards was Wednesday 1 September 2010 – Wednesday 31 August 2011, inclusive.

http://cp.lacdn.net/ariaawards/uploads/ARIA-2011-Eligibility%20Criteria-and-Category-Definitions.pdf

Gotye's single was certified double platinum in the last week of August so none of the nominees sales were anywhere close to Who's That Girl's 4 x p at the cut off time. Having said that nothing would surprise me about ARIA
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Although I am not the biggest fan of her, Jessica Mauboy should have been up for best female release. ARIA has this thing with Triple J/Independent type artists.

People would enjoy the awards more if they included more popular music that features in the weekly top 50 charts. Washington should not be in the best female category over Jess Mauboy or Havana Brown.

Surprised Plans is listed in the biggest selling single category. This was a song featured at last years ARIA's. I would have thought Justice Crew, The Potbelleez, Stan Walker or Drapht would have sold more.

And how is Bruno Mars left off the biggest international artists list? He has had 2 #1 singles in the past 12 months, 4 songs go multi platnium, an album that ranks in the top 10 (maybe even top 5) best sellers of this year and he has done a collaboration with one of the biggest artists of the last decade. He should be on the list well before J-Lo, Chris Brown and more so Pink who has only had 2 singles this year.

ARIA seems to be getting worse every year. Gotye will no doubt win every category he is in this year!
You're right K8. With two 5 x platinum singles and two other multi platinum singles, plus an album which was just short of double platinum at the sales cut off time it is hard to see how Bruno missed out under the ARIA Award guidlines for the international most popular list. Only one release per artist is eligible, but hard to see how he lost out to J-Lo and Jessie J. Either of his 5 x p singles and his close to double platinum album should have come in front of either their 4 x p singles and gold or less albums. Go figure. Only thing I can think of is that his record company didn't submit him.

"The nominee pool for the Most Popular International Artist will be drawn from the artists whose recordings make up the top ten highest selling international releases (based on net wholesale sales during the eligibility period) in both single and album categories. Sales of different releases by the same artist during the period cannot be aggregated for the purposes of this category. An artist may only be nominated once in this category even if that artist has multiple releases in the top ten."

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One week left until the ARIA awards....
Let's hope this year's event improves and the broadcast doesn't get the appropriate categorisation of 'comedy' again, lol.
Which artists are performing at the Aria Awards?

Apart from Gotye,

Kylie Minogue/Delta Goodrem duet??

Havana Brown? although she is still in Paris according to her tweets.



Performances by Gotye/Kimbra, Drapht, Boy & Bear, Geoffery Gurrumul Yunupingu/Missy Higgins, Cut Copy, The Living End, Guy Sebastian
Gotye/Kimbra should shoot back up into the top 10.

Damn Guy Sebastian. His songs suck!

Good to see Drapht performing. Hope they get a bit of a boost.
If I can be bothered watching it, Drapht (one person ), Cut Copy and Gotye should be great.
Ugh. The performers are as bad as the nominees this year. Too depressing for me to watch, sadly.
Hello Savage!

Yes! you are right, what a bunch of boring D-List artists, except for Missy Higgins, I like her.

What about the surprise comeback from Delta Goodrem, she will attend! and perform a new single, according to news reports last week.

Still worth watching this year, Kylie gets her long overdue induction into the Hall of Fame.

Havana Brown is still in Paris, writing tracks with Red One. Hopefully she comes back and attends the award show.
GUESS WHAT BRANDON! The Wiggles of all bands are ALSO being inducted into the Hall of Fame! REALLY!

Further this year's ARIAs are airing on free-to-air digital television, on GO, this year. I wonder what time?
Broadcast starts 7:30pm this Sunday.
Delta is presenting an award, but is NOT performing. There's bitching about it in the paper today. Apparently she wanted to perform her new song, but there's a rule that you have to have released material in the past 12 months to be allowed to perform. Surely that rule has been broken before? I don't care enough to verify it though.
Missy Higgins?
The "/" after Pingu suggests to me that she'll be performing with him. He's released in the last 12 months. Hell, maybe she featured on Rrakala, it's not like I'd know.
Anyway I won't be watching except for Kylie and the Wiggles.
Is Elton John still gonna be there performing/hosting/presenting?

Prime Minister Julia Gillard to honour pop princess Kylie Minogue

Kathy McCabe
The Daily Telegraph
November 25, 201112:00AM

THE Prime Minister met the pop princess at a tsunami fundraiser in Tokyo eights months ago and will now induct her new friend Kylie Minogue into the ARIA Hall Of Fame on Sunday.

Julia Gillard and Minogue, who shares her 25th anniversary in music with the awards, bonded as the star guests at the Australian Embassy fundraiser on March 11.

"Both look forward to meeting each other again under much happier circumstances," according to the statement.

Minogue's manager Terry Blamey and the award organisers have orchestrated a plot twist for the 2011 ceremony worthy of Kath and Kim in securing the Prime Minister to induct Australia's beloved pop pioneer and brave survivor.

When Julia met Kylie

Minogue will share her night of honour with her entire family and partner Andres Velencoso.

ARIA organisers have also enlisted award-winning actor David Wenham to induct The Wiggles, celebrating their 20th year of entertaining children and saving parents' sanity.

Wenham's credentials are strong - he has two young daughters and knows all the words to Hot Potato.

Touring legend Stevie Nicks, who is loved by Australian audiences, is also added to the presenter's roll, joining other international guests, The Voice judge Joel madden and his brother Benji, who will act as a mentor on the Australian series.

Kylie through the years

Australia's most revered rock frontwoman Chrissy Amphlett will take the stage for what is sure to be a highlight of the night.

ARIAs official website

Raining fans for Ricki-Lee

RICKI-Lee Coulter's life is sparkling as she rejuvenates her music career with hit-in-waiting Raining Diamonds.

The svelte pop star's single is a girl-power anthem that encourages women in destructive relationships to take a stand.

Coulter wrote it with US hitmaker Billy Mann during a trip to the US to restore her music mojo.

Red-hot Ricki-Lee blasts back

"When I was in the booth, Billy told me to imagine the woman who is stuck in a shitty relationship and doesn't know what to do and needs some strength. He told me to sing it to her - I was in tears," she said.

Coulter - who will present an award at Sunday's ARIAs - is enjoying connecting with fans who have stopped her in recent months to say she had been an inspiration in their own battles over weight and self-esteem.

The 25th anniversary ARIA Awards from Allphones Arena will be broadcast on Go! From 7.30pm
I was kinda hoping that the two Hall Of fame Inductees would perform together with their collaboration of Monkey Man.

Shame Delta can't perform, I'm with BZ I don't recall that rule ever existing before but then I guess I've never really paid that much attention to techincalities. Based on who is performing and who is nominating, most likely won't tune in unless I'm bored.
My predictions:

ALBUM OF THE YEAR

Zonoscope - Cut Copy

SINGLE OF THE YEAR:

Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra

ADULT ALTERNATIVE ALBUM

Rain on the Humming Wire - The Panics

ADULT CONTEMPORARY ALBUM

Roy - Damien Leith

BLUES & ROOTS ALBUM

Live at Red Rocks - John Butler Trio

BEST CHILDRENS ALBUM

Ukulele Baby - The Wiggles

BEST COMEDY RELEASE

Celebrating 50 Glorious Years - Hamish & Andy

BEST COUNTRY ALBUM

Get Closer - Keith Urban

BEST DANCE RELEASE

From the Music - The Potbelleez

BEST FEMALE ARTIST

Little Bird - Kasey Chambers

BEST GROUP

Ghosts of the Past - Eskimo Joe

BEST HARD ROCK/HEAVY METAL ALBUM

Ritardando - Front End Loader

BEST INDEPENDENT RELEASE

Rrakala - Gurrumul

BEST MALE ARTIST

Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra

BEST MUSIC DVD (longform)

Live National Tour - RockWiz

BEST POP RELEASE

Who's That Girl - Guy Sebastian

BEST ROCK ALBUM

Ghosts of the Past - Eskimo Joe

BEST URBAN ALBUM

Babylon - Phrase

BREAKTHROUGH ARTIST ALBUM

Gilgamesh - Gypsy & The Cat

BREAKTHROUGH ARTIST SINGLE

We Run the Night - Havana Brown

BEST COVER ART

Zonoscope - Cut Copy

BEST VIDEO (shortform)

Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra

HIGHEST SELLING ALBUM:

Angus & Julia Stone - Down The Way (EMI Music Australia)

HIGHEST SELLING SINGLE:

Gotye - Somebody That I Used To Know (feat. Kimbra)

Havana Brown is back in Australia, yes! that means she will be attending the Aria Awards on Sunday.

Out of the 5 artists in the "Breakthrough Single" category, her song is the most commmercially successful.

I really hope she can win! if she doesn't then let it be Zoe Badwi.

Hopefully dance music artists dominate the night.

Much more interesting night this year, especially because of Kylie Minogue's induction into the Hall of Fame.

Delta and her much younger boyfriend Nick Jonas will be there, good press attention for them.

Gosh I hope Nicole Kidman attends with hubby Keith Urban always good to see her on the red carpet.

Good to see the PM attending the show, much better than Bob Katter's stint last year.

Looking forward to a more exciting ARIA awards this year, with a few surprises, thank goodness a decent INDOOR venue!

My expectations are high this year!
I will watch mainly to see if they mess it up or not this
time and if they do I will go on about it on my bogus site again.
Also to see who wins the Highest Seller catergorys.
DOn't forget The WIggles Brandon

Lifter I read somewhere the ptehr day that ARIA have taken back control of their award shows and will not be pandering to any TV network demands. Take that however you want.
ALBUM OF THE YEAR
Moonfire - Boy & Bear *WINNER*
Zonoscope - Cut Copy
Ghosts of the Past - Eskimo Joe
Rrakala - Gurrumul
2 - Grinderman

ADULT ALTERNATIVE ALBUM
Moonfire - Boy & Bear *WINNER*
2 - Grinderman
Midnight Remember - Little Red
Seeker Lover Keeper - Seeker Lover Keeper
Rain on the Humming Wire - The Panics

ADULT CONTEMPORARY ALBUM
Tangier - Billy Thorpe *WINNER* (first ever postumous ARIA Award)
Gathering Mercury - Colin Hay
Roy - Damien Leith
Jack - John Farnham
Undertow - Mark Seymour

BLUES & ROOTS ALBUM
Starvation Box - The Backsliders
Worldwize Part 1: North & South - Blue King Brown
Live at Red Rocks - John Butler Trio
Sometimes the Stars - The Audreys *WINNER*
Temptation - The Waifs

BEST CHILDRENS ALBUM
Dig it - DirtGirlWorld
Turn the Music Up - Hi-5
See! - Holly Throsby
Let's Play Together - Play School
Ukulele Baby - The Wiggles *WINNER*

BEST COMEDY RELEASE
Inflatable - Adam Hills
The One and Only Buddy Goode - Buddy Goode
Celebrating 50 Glorious Years - Hamish & Andy *WINNER*
Suprise! - Josh Thomas
Tim Minchin & the Heritage Orchestra - Tim Minchin

BEST COUNTRY ALBUM
Listen Here - Jasmine Rae
Little Bird - Kasey Chambers *WINNER*
Get Closer - Keith Urban
Bad Machines - Shane Nicholson
Live - Troy Cassar-Daley

BEST DANCE RELEASE
Bag Raiders - Bag Raiders
Zonoscope - Cut Copy *WINNER*
Illumination - Miami Horror
Soft Universe - Pnau
From the Music - The Potbelleez

BEST FEMALE ARTIST
Adalita - Adalita
Are You Ready Yet? - Clare Bowditch
Little Bird - Kasey Chambers
Cameo Lover - Kimbra *WINNER*
Holy Moses - Washington

BEST GROUP
Wild at Heart - Birds of Tokyo
Moonfire - Boy & Bear *WINNER*
Ghosts of the Past - Eskimo Joe
2 - Grinderman
The End is Just the Beginning Repeating - The Living End

BEST HARD ROCK/HEAVY METAL ALBUM
Ethereal Surrogate Saviour - Coerce
Glorius Basterds - Cosmic Psychos
Heartbound - Dream on Dreamer
FloatingMe - FloatingMe
Ritardando - Front End Loader *WINNER*

BEST INDEPENDENT RELEASE
The Experiment - Art vs Science *WINNER*
Rrakala - Gurrumul
Live at Red Rocks - John Butler Trio
Tex Perkins & The Dark Horses - Tex Perkins & the Dark Horses
Dark Storm - The Jezabels

BEST MALE ARTIST
The Life of Riley - Drapht
Strange Tourist - Gareth Liddiard
Rrakala - Gurrumul
Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra *WINNER*
No One Wants a Lover - Josh Pyke

BEST MUSIC DVD (longform)
Live at River Plate - AC/DC
Sunsets Farewell Tour - Powderfinger
Live National Tour - RockWiz
Man in Black - Tex Perkins
Triple J One Night Stand - Various

BEST POP RELEASE
Moments Bends - Architecture in Helsinki
Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra *WINNER*
Who's That Girl - Guy Sebastian
Gilgamesh - Gypsy & The Cat
Holy Moses - Washington

BEST ROCK ALBUM
Theory of Everything - Children Collide
Ghosts of the Past - Eskimo Joe
Kosciuszko - Jebediah
United in Isolation - Papa vs Pretty
The Ending is Just the Beginning Repeating - The Living End *WINNER*

BEST URBAN ALBUM
The Life of Riley - Drapht *WINNER*
The Chase - Illy
The Umu - Koolism
Babylon - Phrase
Marked for Death - Vents

BREAKTHROUGH ARTIST ALBUM
Moonfire - Boy & Bear *WINNER*
The Life or Riley - Drapht
Gilgamesh - Gypsy & The Cat
Great Barrier Grief - Oh Mercy
I Want That You are Always Happy - The Middle East

BREAKTHROUGH ARTIST SINGLE
Feeding Line - Boy & Bear *WINNER*
Rapunzel - Drapht
We Run the Night - Havana Brown
Dark Storm - The Jezabels
Freefallin' - Zoe Badwi

SINGLE OF THE YEAR
Wild at Heart - Birds of Tokyo
Feeding Line - Boy & Bear
Rapunzel - Drapht
Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra *WINNER*
Who's That Girl - Guy Sebastian
Dark Storm - The Jezabels

BEST COVER ART
The Experiment - Art vs Science
Tangier - Billy Thorpe
Zonoscope - Cut Copy
Rrakala - Gurrumul
Great Barrier Grief - Oh Mercy

BEST VIDEO (shortform)
Loveless - Children Collide
Love is a Drug - Eskimo Joe
Gopuru - Gurrumul
Somebody That I Used to Know - Gotye feat Kimbra
Cameo Lover - Kimbra

HIGHEST SELLING ALBUMS
Altiyan Childs - Altiyan Childs (Sony Music Entertainment Australia) *WINNER*
Angus & Julia Stone - Down The Way (EMI Music Australia)
Birds Of Tokyo - Birds of Tokyo (EMI Music Australia)
Keith Urban - Get Closer (EMI Music Australia)
Various - He Will Have His Way - The Songs of Tim & Neil Finn (EMI Music Australia)

HIGHEST SELLING SINGLES
Birds of Tokyo – Plans (EMI Music Australia)
Gotye - Somebody That I Used To Know (feat. Kimbra) (Samples 'n' Seconds Records/Eleven: A Music Company)
Guy Sebastian - Who's that Girl (feat. Eve) (Sony Music Entertainment Australia) *WINNER*
Havana Brown - We Run The Night (Island Australia/Universal Music Australia)
Jessica Mauboy - Saturday Night (feat. Ludacris) (Sony Music Entertainment Australia)

MOST POPULAR ARTIST - Birds of Tokyo
MOST POPULAR INTERNATIONAL ARTIST - P!nk
MOST POPULAR LIVE ACT - The Living End
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PERFORMANCES:
Drapht - Rapunzel
Cut Copy - Need You Now
Guy Sebastian - Who's That Girl/Don't Worry be happy (mash-up)
Art vs Science - Magic Fountain
Gurrumul and Missy Higgins
Gotye and Kimbra - Somebody That I Used to Know
The Living End - The End is Just the Beginning Repeating
Delta Goodrem - The Day You Went Away
Boy & Bear - Feeding Line
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Are the awards better than last years?

I am not watching as I have visitors.
Just started tuning in:

Yikes! From the rock, pop, country, urban, and breakthrough artists... I can only agree with one of them...

Yay, Gotye's performance!

Damn, missed Cut/Copy and AvS... AvS would have been awesome based on seeing them live earlier this year...

Gotye sounds quite good for such a difficult vocal line

Kimbra sounded excellent but she looked like she was remembering her lines and positions on stage :/
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Cut Copy's song is that a cover of Lady Antebellum?

Trust Guy Sebastian to mash up his singles. He can't have a hit unless he heavily promotes it! He is starting to really bug me.

Hope Drapht re-enter the top 100.
K8: no, Cut/Copy's song is a six minute epic opener from their album... much better than LA
Ah thanks.

Wow at Gotye not winning highest selling single.

Not sure I agree with breakthrough artist.
I think The Jezabels should have won Breakthrough Single... Breakthrough Album = difficult choice...
Difference between Adult Contemporary and Adult Alternative?
I have a bad feeling that Boy & Bear are going to get AotY...

Preds:

VIDEO gotye
COVER cutcopy
MALE gotye
FEMALE washington
GROUP birds OR bear (ugh)
SINGLE gotye
ALBUM bear

gross gross gross on most
lol... most popular australian artist...

it's like the consolation prize, or the encouragement award...

and naturally, birds of tokyo win

live commenting ftw

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...and most popular international artist = gross

but, hey, pink, best of a bad bunch, despite the fact she did nothing this year, lol

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disgusting choices for popular live act... but the best choice won... perhaps 10-15 years too late
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...ugh... boy and bear = best music coming from australia this year?

hopefully gotye can at least grab single oty from them
Adult Alternative = Music for the older JJJ listerner
Adult Contemporary = Music for the older commerical radio listener
yeah, but i just have a qualm with the wording...

ugh... delta, you are so superfluous now
also, an update for the itunes thread... after 40 minutes, Gotye has moved from 18 -> 12
The Wiggles

....SIMON PEGG TALKING ABOUT THE WIGGLES
as i experienced when i saw them live a year ago, boy and bear are just boring live... UNLESS you are emotionally invested in their music... i am not, lol
Just an excuse to hand out more awards. They seem to lie more specific awards every year while ignjoring the world that will entice more viewers - popular commerical genre. WHy not just make a reality tv contest category LOL
in their defense, though... look at the australian artists who have made their mark this year... apart from one single by Havana and Zoe, then the artists being nominated are in a similar, yet much smaller, bag than the Grammys... critical darlings who crossover mixed with the mainstream artists that represent the traditional australian music
fantastic for gotye... it would have been as good if the jezabels won, but i mean c'mon... biggest australian selling single ever (on its own merits)... it was always gonna happen
boy and bear = 2011's baby animals, lol (thx wiki!)
GOTYE for single and BOY & BEAR for album of the year
A Full List of Noms for these if possible.

MOST POPULAR ARTIST
MOST POPULAR INTERNATIONAL ARTIST (Yay for Shannon nom here if memory is correct)
MOST POPULAR LIVE ACT.

Anyway glad Pink won International Act and Altiyan won an ARIA, who would of thought.
Good performence from Gotye too I guess and glad for his wins. Ironic that Kimbra wins Best Female.
Boy & Bear winning was so easy to predict.
I can't really validate my opinion as I didn't watch last year's train wreck and I have nothing to compare this year's ARIAs to. Also, I am clueless at judging what was good or not but what I'll say is that I was actually impressed at the show. The performances were great, although some presenters were weird and the jokes were a huge fail but overall it was a decent show and I now have heaps of music to check out.

Happiest moment was when Birds of Tokyo won their award! Good to see P!nk too.

I have no problem with the Gotye/Boy & Bear domination but I would've liked maybe Eskimo Joe to win a couple. The Living End won a good amount as did Gotye. Probably would've liked someone besides Hamish & Andy to win comedy. Kids I'm happy because dirtgirlworld didn't win. Overall I'm quite pleased.
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After everyone has had their say about the awards, may we turn this into a discussion about the terrible state of 'Australian' music in what was a decidedly weak year for the ARIAs?

If so, I shall see you all in a day or so!!
MOST POPULAR AUSTRALIAN ARTIST
Birds Of Tokyo
Justice Crew
Jessica Mauboy
Angus & Julia Stone
Keith Urban

Can't be stuffed to do the others
These ARIA Awards aren't as good as they use to be. How does Havana Brown, who had one of the biggest Australian Singles or the year loses Breakthrough Artist Single to an act who has meet had a single in the top 30, I'm confused. I'm also the talent show contestants getting snubbed of moms too but that's a whole other story.
If the awards keep on turning into the Triple JJJ Awards, try will have no viewers. The 2 highlights of the show was Kylie's speech, and Delta's performance.
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MOST POPULAR INTERNATIONAL ARTIST
Lady Gaga
Chris Brown
Pink
Adele
LMFAO

Most Popular Live Act
The Living End
Justice Crew
Shannon Noll
...
... (says more than the actual names, lol)
I disagree Clinton. This show gave me more hope in Aus music than 09 or even 08. I dunno but that's just me.
@crazychris for once i think your handle does you justice!

that delta performance was spiritually valueless, commercially worthless, and in no way a homage to the late artists... barf as far as i am concerned...

and again, i struggle to see how 'mainstream' australian music is neglected when the highest selling australian single of all time is awarded the second-most awards of the night while a critically-acclaimed band with 3 charting singles in the eligibility period and a #2 album gets the most...
@Clinton vocally she was brilliant and the only performance close to it was Gotye but I hate that song!

And I mean come on, how does Havana Brown lose to Boy & Bear at a breakthrough artist award where Havana has toured and had a top 10 hit, B&B have had a top 10 album but it's a singles award. Gotye deserved his awards and probably deserves to win the most. All I'm saying is look at how much artists like Jess Mauboy and Stan Walker get snubbed? Jess has had 5 singles in the last year, and all of them have reached the top 20 yet she's only nominated for 2, not even best female artist or best pop release. Then when she gets nominated for 7 she wins only 1, where she was easily the biggest, most consistent artist of that year. Aria need some mainstream judges because the only mainstream stuff that wins is the odd song from a triple JJJ artist, or an award that is publicly voted or based on how many copies sold.
@cc with Delta, i guess we will have to agree to disagree... i was expecting a Darren Hayes 'lost without you' moment... imo, that didn't happen...

However, comparing Jess Mauboy and Stan Walker to Boy and Bear and Gotye is like comparing Flo Rida and Black Eyed Peas to Arcade fire and {insert comparable artist here}... the Australian awards will always be a niche event because Australian music is niche, and tracks like Saturday Night and We Run The Night are the Cobra Starships and Cali Swag Districts of Australian music
Staying offline for 6 hours on a Sunday afternoon: Horrible, don't make me do it again.

As for the awards, as much as I'm happy for the winners, I suppose it would've been nice for some other artists to have a share, and even as a fan, B&B's album wasn't the best of the year

I will say, sales mean nothing if only kids buy it, not suggesting that it's necessarily the case, but clearly the voting committee favour the adult alternative (is that the right one? ) genre. I could go on but I've said the same thing over and over again too much that even I'm sick of hearing it, so I'll stop.
"Trust Guy Sebastian to mash up his singles. He can't have a hit unless he heavily promotes it!" What a load of codswallop K8. No amount of promotion is going to make a song or album sell mega amounts if people don't like it. A good example of that is Vanessa Amorosi's Amazing. Sung on the X Factor, sung on the final of the Channel 9 Footy Show, used in the Channel 7 promotion of the AFL Finals and yet peaked at #83 on the ARIA Charts. Plenty of other songs have also tanked with lots of promo. Who's That Girl did not reach #1 in Australia till five weeks after he performed it on X Factor last year, and didn't reach #1 in NZ till 3 months after. Apart from a short time as the promo song for Desperate Housewives what other heavy promo did it receive? From memory he only sang it on a couple of morning tv shows after that. And while Like It Like That was the #1 most played song on radio, Who's That Girl never even cracked the Top 10 most played songs in a single week. The highest it got was #12. Guy is still around and can still get #1 multi platinum singles and Top 10 platinum albums years after Idol because he is popular and writes songs people want to buy, not that people are forced to buy Suck it up and deal with it because he isn't going away anytime soon
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I agree with Marbo in reguards to Guy Sebastian, he's done the tough yards and now he's reaping the rewards for years of torture and effort doing the Australian media tours.
I think we just have to accept that people watching T.V actually now influence the charts more than ever and fads are so easy to come buy it ain't funny.
As for the ARIA's, well all i'll say is I lost faith in this 'system' in the late 90's when 'alternative quote JJJ artists' were ruling the charts but were getting snubbed by the 'mainstream mediocre artists' now look what happens
BREAKTHROUGH ARTIST SINGLE
Feeding Line - Boy & Bear *WINNER*

LOL!
I understand both sides of the arguments with mainstream vs non-mainstream. But I do feel that when it comes to noms mainstream acts are ignored these days. Maybe it is payback for the 90s, but even the Grammys finds room for populist music in their noms, even if they frustrate the viewers by handing the big awards to old fogies or alternatives. And then when you look at how the ARIAs have expanded the awards handed out they seem to do everything in their power to ensure they alienate mainstream listeners. But having said all that, I probably would ignore mainstream music cause recently our charts have been clogged with crap. But I guess would it have been that painful to throw someone like Jessica Mauboy a consolation nom for Best Female Artist. I personally think the biggest joke of last night was giving Kimbra best female artist and pretending it had nothing to do with STIUTK but her own work. ANd that's not even mentioning the fact she is NZ.
I personally believe sales and chart positions are a poor indication of how popular an artist may be.
It's not necessarily my opinion, nor even a certain reason, but perhaps "mainstream" acts get less nominations because they're mostly so samey sounding and utterly generic? At least with the "alternative" artists, you get a variety of sounds and genres at work, with the mainstream stuff, it's not very varied at all. And the awards are not for "most popular", they're for "best". What's most popular is not necessarily the best. What one particular individual thinks is "best" is not even necessarily the best.

In any case, look at some of the people who have dominated the nominations and awards in the past decade: Missy Higgins, Delta Goodrem, Gabriella Cilmi. These people are pop and popular. All had at least one #1 single. When a pop act has considerable success, they too will dominate. It's just not happening at the moment. Guy Sebastian had a #1 single, but no album to receive nominations. Gotye had a #1 single, but is apparently not popular. Havana Brown hit the top ten, sure, but there's no way she deserved to win the breakthrough artist on the basis of We Run The Night IMO. I feel the breakthrough awards aren't necessarily going to go to who simply had the most success in terms of sales, but to someone who actually shows the promise of a long and ongoingly successful career. IMO, as a pop/vocal act, Havana won't be that. She's better as a DJ. Anyway, what I'm saying is, pop will rule the awards again, there just needs to be a big album/single to do it, and THAT'S what's not happening at the moment.

I do agree that Kimbra would have only won Best Female because of STIUTK, but I'm fine for her to get that. Everyone involved with that song deserves an award.

I was happy with the winners. The only one I really cared about was seeing "Somebody That I Used To Know" rightfully take out the Single of the Year award, and it did so. The ceremony was better than last year's too, and as a whole, the performers were as well. Although Guy Sebastian not performing his big hit of the year in full was a letdown, instead he felt it necessary to shoehorn in his new single, something which seems to be against the rules for performances apparently, just to try to increase its sales. I admit he's earned the success he has, but I would agree that his singles get a LOT more promotion than other Aussie artists do, and that would also be a factor in his success.
Wow! a big improvement from 2010, well done to the Aria Awards organisers this year for making it a little more exciting to watch.

OH! what a difference a new INDOOR venue can make, love the revolving Aria logo in the background, fantastic backdrop. Lovely big show, decent venue, easy to see where everyone is seated, much better than the outdoor pub venue last year.

Very dissapointed to see Zoe Badwi and Havana Brown miss out on winning Breakthrough Artist Single.

Zoe laughed off the loss on Twitter after the show, she tweeted....

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“@OZBomb: Breakthrough Artist for Boy & Bear, atleast it wasn't Zoe Badwi or someone from Neighbours. #ARIAs” hahaha!

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Clearly this can be taken as Zoe having a swipe at the Aria's for not allowing her to win. She has every right to be angry.

More backlash about the winner of "Breakthrough Single" category.

POPrepublic.tv said....

no disrespect to the bear boys - but um, breakthrough artist means MASSIVE success, and Zoë Badwi has released internationally with huge results... Havana Brown has had huge hits... again pop and dance take a backseat to indie... no wonder there are issues in the biz!

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I'm upset that a D-List artist such as Boy & Bear won, just because of the paid endorsement from Triple J.
How much is Triple J paying Aria?

How dare they snub Havana Brown who sold a lot more copies of her single.
The reaction from the audience was very quiet, even a few gasps, the fans were screaming "Havana", then Boy & Bear's name was called out, and it was such as underwhelming win.

Who the fuck are Boy & Bear anyway? and it was even worse for me to witness them get up and win the 2nd award "Breakthrough Album", I walked away from the tv, couldn't handle watching them win another award, one was enough. At the end of the night I was hoping that Eskimo Joe or Cut Copy would take home "Album of the Year", but it went to Boy & Bear, OMG! WTF! I was shocked.

A very lacklustre applause from the audience when Boy & Bear took home 3 awards, it's too much! does anyone care, I heard the moshpit fans scream Eskimo Joe! but unfortunately Boy & Bear took home "Album of the Year". The most underwhelming winners in Aria's history.

This year it was worth watching the show, heaps of good quality performances, loved watching Art & Science, Kimbra was cool, and Cut Copy gave the best performance of the night.

Delta's tribute was good but not exciting, strong vocals from her. Her back was to the audience, and I wanted to see her face, not much interaction with the crowd.

Anyway, I was very pleased to see the PM Julia Gillard show up to present the award to Kylie Minogue, such a nice honour it must have been for Kylie to be inducted by Australia's most powerful woman. I liked the PM's tribute speech to Kylie when she talked about how they met in Japan, very thoughful of her.

I loved Kylie's speech, nice to see her take a swipe at her critics, lots of emotion from Molly Meldrum and many others started to cry, nice to see Kylie get a standing ovation too, well deserved recognition.

I'm so happy that Kasey Chambers won! she had the funniest speech of the night, so laid back.

CUT COPY! won "Best Dance Release", yes!

GOTYE won a few! and KIMBRA won! too.

Winners should be based on SALES and INTERNATIONAL success ONLY!, because it shows the artists is representing Australia overseas, not airplay from Triple J. Indie artists getting too many nominations and wins? this is becoming a major issue, as artists are furious at being snubbed.

Overall my rating for the show is 6/10 this year, much improved from 1/10 last year. Score is based on my favourite artists not winning and no Havana Brown or Zoe Badwi performance.
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I do agree with everything you said bluezombie. I do believe that Australian music is currently experiencing a bit of a doldrum at the moment mainstream wise. The main problem is that for some reason the consumers are ignoring the Australian sound which makes for a big descrpency between what sells and what is considered best. Unfirtunatel the mainstream artists are being forced to adopt the current American sound of club hits to even just get a moderate sized hit. These acts need to change their sound to keep their contracts. So the blame shouldn't be thrown at ARIA it should be thrown at the consumers who are refusing to buy the Australian sound. Have a look at how Australian pub rock has disappeared form the charts. Shannon Noll struggles to have hits. And I can only imagine if Diesel was a new act over the past 5 years he would be a total non-entity.

And since Guy has been bought up I will just vent that I dislike how he is able to manipulate events to his advantage while others respect 'rules' He even has permission out of all the judges on X Factor to perform his song on the biggest night, while the other judes just get a generic night.

Oh and Brandon there is a difference between BEST and HIGHEST selling. I'm glad that sales don't count twoards the critic awards. Imagine some of the crap that would win music awards.
I agree with Zoe Badwi, Boy & Bear aren't a breakthrough artist.
In Boy & Bear's defence, they're the only artist in that list who have managed to have any proper success outside of the one main single (ie, 3 gold singles [Actually, I looked it up and apparently they only have the one, I imagine the other two would be pretty close though]), but then I do call to question it because I always thought the rule was that an artist cannot have had a top 50 hit prior. The only explanation I can come up with is that they hadn't had any before the eligibility period, or that Fall At Your Feet wasn't technically a single. I'll need to look into it.

Also I don't think the awards are necessarily going alternative, it's just that the alternative is becoming mainstream. After all, the awards were dominated by the highest selling Australian song (ever!), and one of the highest selling albums that wasn't covers, I'll need to wait until the EOY lists come out for better insight.

However, for anyone who needs to have sales being the basis for success over any other objective attributes, enjoy
http://ariacharts.com.au/pages/charts_display_singles.asp?chart=1U50

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It's always funny when somebody trumpets on about sales records being broken in this day and age of massive singles sales.
sales = relative, whatever, I'm sick of trying to make my point In any case, STIUTK is clearly the biggest Australian song in the charts in a long, long time, possibly ever depending on how you base it.
I do hear what you are saying Hijinx, but perhaps if ARIA wasn't so secretive with overall sales we could at least play the game of relative sales. eg Song A sold 1 copy in an era where 2 copies were sold comapred to Single B who sold 500 copies in an era where 2000 copies were sold if you get my drift. I use to put a lot of weight into accreditation, but now it is more of a passing curiosity with no weight behind it.

But this really just come down to bragging rights from promotional teams. It's like how Avatar is trumpeted as the highest grossing movie of all time but when you look at tickets sold it sold less tickets than Titanic which in turn sold less than Gone With The Wind blah blah blah.
Yeah I get what you mean as well, but then I don't think accreditations are as overstated as people claim them to be, granted that in terms of chart positions, I won't deny that accreditations are being given out more frequently. However alongside this, I can also argue that extended shelf life is contributing too, eg I don't think we need sales figures to show that PRA is clearly having the biggest run ever seen. Perhaps it wouldn't have been <P>9 10 years ago, but nonetheless it states its case. I'm bordering very close on going off on a tangent to my original argument about sales figures, so I'll stop now.
STIUTK is just riding on the inexplicable popularity of alternative music in the mainstream market at the moment. It won't be well remembered in 10 years time. Hijinx, even you'd admit that he has had better songs in the past and they didn't even make the charts when they were released, let alone top them for 8 weeks.
Well I think you're just saying that because you don't like it But I don't see why it wouldn't be remembered well, heck Hearts a Mess (which yes I do think is the better song) was remembered enough to chart this year, 5 years after release, and that was never anything more than a major JJJ hit back then. STIUTK made #1 airplay in this country, and even hit #1 in 3 other countries. The best comparison I can make to its success is Truly Madly Deeply, over 10 years on, I don't think we've forgotten that one yet
The stage they had was really positioned wrong. It went into the middle of the crowd on a skinny path that could of easily caused accidents.
Accidents = Ratings!
These arguments will never end (amercanized anyone?). How about we just let the complainers complain, the gloaters gloat and just enjoy the night/music?
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When do the ARIA nominations get announced... the cut off is the end of August isn't it??

Would Sia be eligable with Titanium or Wild Ones??

I am expecting a few noms for Delta, Missy, 360, Hilltop Hoods, Matt Corby, Knife Party, Xavier Rudd, Angus Stone and Keith Urban.

I hope Havana Brown gets some noms and even better some wins but I doubt it.

I don't know if Guy Sebastian would get any noms either... He doesn't usually get many but that is the reality TV curse which will also hurt the likes of Ricki-Lee, Jess Mauboy, Timomatic, Reece Mastin, Justice Crew, Karise Eden and a couple of others too.

Not sure if Gotye is eligble for anything.

Looking forward to hearing some news about these awards.
The cut off last year was in the middle of August, right before Making Mirrors was released hence Gotye only getting nominations for STIUTK. If the cut off remains the same, MM is a near dead cert for AOTY imo.

Sia shouldn't get nominated because the ARIAs focus on the primary artist of which she is not. This differs from the APRAs which focus on the songwriter hence Titanium getting nominated.

I am looking forward to this year's awards too but not the backlash
Btw, I miss Brandon's lengthy posts. I always enjoyed reading things from his point of view even if at times I cringed and didn't agree. So Brandon if you read this come back.

Also, I did mention Matt Corby getting some noms and didn't mention him as a reality contestant. I feel he hasn't got the stigma of being a reality contestant. He's on Triple J which works in his favour and he became a big artist a few years after his Idol days.

Guy on the other hand will be nominated in the highest selling categories and viewer's choice categories and if he is lucky and they are lacking contenders he will get a nom in best male too.

The rest of the reality artists will be contenders for highest selling and viewers choice only.
I've always thought that it's not necessarily a stigma, but just simple demographics. I mean, if Timomatic or Justice Crew appeal to a younger demographic and get hits, then they're fine to do so, but this isn't the demographic that vote in the ARIAs. The people who do vote, are probably more widely knowledgeable of the Australian music scene (as many of them are in fact, a part of it).

That all being said, it wouldn't surprise me if there is a level of despision towards such artists because after all, I can't imagine artists being fond of artists who have hit it big without making the hard yards, and with no credibility to show for it.

However I do think it's possible to get out of that trap, after all, Guy Sebastian has started to get legitimate nominations lately, and has won some (strange) APRA awards even. I sometimes even forget that he was once on Idol! The fields (AKA Gotye) are probably too strong for him to take out a win this year though. The other spanner in the works is obviously Matt Corby. Into The Flame I suspect would be frontrunner for SOTY, which gives the possibility for the first ever Idol alumni award outside the sales ones. Lisa Mitchell is also a chance at nominations again, but I suspect Kimbra or Missy to be taking over any of her categories.

There's actually so much I have to say on this but I trimmed it down and it's probably a bit messy, I promise no more ramblings tonight!
Hijinx keep going... I am enjoying the read.

What you say makes total sense.

I like the discussion and seeing people opinions (as long as people aren't put down for their input ofcourse) hence why I brought it up.


PS. I think your predictions are spot on too.
I actually feel like I could write a whole essay on the topic! Not now though, but here's some more predictions

AOTY: Gotye (other noms could be Temper Trap, Jezabels, Hilltop Hoods, Kimbra)

SOTY: Matt Corby (others maybe 360, Hilltop Hoods, Guy Sebastian,

Best Male: Gotye (for MM this time, over Angus Stone, Guy Sebastian, 360, Keith Urban)

Best Female: Kimbra (for Vows this time, over Missy, Ladyhawke, Lisa Mitchell, Julia Stone or any of a bunch of indie ones)

Best Pop Release: Gotye (apparently this is his genre! And over Guy Sebastian, Missy Higgins, Delta, San Cisco maybe)

Best Urban: Hilltop Hoods (over 360, Illy, The Herd, Hermitude)

Best Country: Keith Urban (over the usual affair)

Best Dance: I can't pick a winner but maybe Ivan Gough, Knife Party, The Presets (if they fit the cut off), Van She, maybe a late Art vs. Science single if they run out of ideas like I have!

Best Rock: The Temper Trap (over Jezabels, Cold Chisel, Children Collide, Last Dinosaurs), Best Group would be similar too except they might slip in a late B&B single because that's what they do.

Best AA: I really struggle to know what they'll classify in, so there could be Matt Corby, Angus Stone, Julia Stone. Maybe Xavier Rudd but his last album went under World music iirc

HS Single: Gotye (if the cutoffs are fair, he HAS to win), Guy Sebastian, Timomatic, Reece, 360

HS Album: Gotye, Karise, Hilltop Hoods, 360, Reece

Breakthrough Single: Matt Corby (over 360, San Cisco, Timomatic, Knife Party, Illy)

Breakthrough Album: 360 (over Last Dinosaurs, The Jezabels, and I have no idea)

This too way too long to think up and I think I've forgotten plenty!
I don't know if your predictions are wishful thinking Jinxie. I hope so or else it's set to be another ARIA Awards that I'll be giving a miss!
Nah I'm trying to be realistic, I excluded plenty of my faves
Any Hall Of Fame contenders??

Daryl Braithwaite would be good to see.

Anyone that hasn't been acknowledged that really should have been??
ARIA on Facebook: "on Monday we'll have the first bit of 2012 ARIA Awards news for you!"

Will perhaps move all the 2012 talk to a new thread soon.

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