irelander
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With the NAB Cup beginning tonight between Hawthorn, North Melbourne and Richmond, here's the appropriate thread for this year's scores and also for the discussion of anything AFL. This year sees 23 rounds of games, with each team playing 22 games and having a bye which are distributed in the shortened rounds 11, 12 and 13. This year also sees the introduction of the Greater Western Sydney Giants, increasing the league's number of teams to 18.

AFL Tipping 2012: http://www.australian-charts.com/forum.asp?todo=viewthread&id=38581&pages=

AFL Scores 2011: http://www.australian-charts.com/forum.asp?status=edited&todo=viewthread&pages=&id=35622



2012 Premiership Season Venues:

AAMI	AAMI Stadium, Adelaide
ANZ	ANZ Stadium, Sydney
AUR	Aurora Stadium, Launceston
BA	Blundstone Arena, Hobart
BIS	Blacktown International Sportspark, Blacktown
CAZ	Cazaly's Stadium, Cairns
ES	Etihad Stadium, Melbourne
G	GABBA, Brisbane
MAN	Manuka Oval, Canberra
MCG	Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne
MS	Metricon Stadium, Gold Coast
PS	Patersons Stadium, Perth
SCG	Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney
SKD	Skoda Stadium, Sydney
SS	Simonds Stadium, Geelong
TIO	TIO Stadium, Darwin

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irelander
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	NAB Cup Round 1
41	Richmond	vs	North Melb	44	ES
28	North Melb	vs	Hawthorn	53	ES
40	Richmond	vs	Hawthorn	37	ES
30	GWS	vs	W Bulldogs	35	BIS
19	W Bulldogs	vs	Collingwood	26	BIS
32	GWS	vs	Collingwood	35	BIS
57	West Coast	vs	Essendon	36	PS
20	Essendon	vs	Fremantle	56	PS
30	West Coast	vs	Fremantle	10	PS

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irelander
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29	St Kilda	vs	Sydney	59	ES
13	Sydney	vs	Geelong	29	ES
36	St Kilda	vs	Geelong	15	ES
26	Gold Coast	vs	Melbourne	23	MS
13	Melbourne	vs	Brisbane	10	MS
18	Gold Coast	vs	Brisbane	16	MS
46	Port Adelaide	vs	Carlton	40	AAMI
34	Carlton	vs	Adelaide	43	AAMI
17	Port Adelaide	vs	Adelaide	18	AAMI

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zxcvcxz
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Ohh Richmond won so then all 3 teams won, then who goes through?? I'm guessing Hawthorn. This format is very confusing.

Also what is BIS? Is that Gold Coast's stadium? Thank you for doing this irelander.
Whoops of course for some reason I thought GWS meant Gold Coast
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irelander
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Gold Coast's is Metricon Stadium. 'BIS', as the newly added venue table will tell you, is GWS's training facility in Blacktown, suburb of Sydney. It will be one of three home grounds for the Giants (along with ANZ Stadium and Manuka Oval) until Round 9 when they unveil the new Skoda Stadium.

Oh, um, there are four weeks of NAB Cup games which then create a ladder, and the top two of that ladder will play in the NAB Cup Grand Final in the fifth week.
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irelander
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	NAB Cup Round 2
69	Gold Coast	vs	Geelong	118	MS
108	Hawthorn	vs	GWS	34	AUR
-	Essendon	vs	St Kilda	-	Wangaratta*
82	Sydney	vs	North Melb	65	Bruce Purser Res, Sydney
92	West Coast	vs	Port Adelaide	87	Mandurah
70	Collingwood	vs	Melbourne	79	ES
93	Adelaide	vs	Brisbane	42	Alice Springs
74	W Bulldogs	vs	Carlton	70	ES
105	Fremantle	vs	Richmond	67	PS

*Essendon were unable to make their flight to Wangaratta, and because St Kilda had made it there by bus, the game was called off. As such, the AFL has ruled that St Kilda will be awarded the win and four points added for them on the NAB Cup ladder.
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irelander
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	NAB Cup Round 3
105	Essendon	vs	Sydney	103	ES
138	Adelaide	vs	Collingwood	61	AAMI
49	Geelong	vs	Richmond	108	SS
76	GWS	vs	Gold Coast	63	Albury
86	Port Adelaide	vs	Fremantle	66	Victor Harbor
104	Brisbane	vs	Carlton	40	Maroochydore
44	Melbourne	vs	Hawthorn	123	ES
85	West Coast	vs	St Kilda	52	PS
93	North Melb	vs	W Bulldogs	70	Eureka Stadium, Ballarat

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zxcvcxz
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Do you have the ladder? Crows would be near the top wouldn't they? Fingers crossed we make the grand final! I remember the 2008 Nab Cup grand final was one of the most electric Crows games I went to.

irelander
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NAB Cup ladder:

1	Adelaide
2	West Coast
3	Hawthorn
4	Fremantle
5	Sydney
6	Port Adelaide
7	Richmond
8	Brisbane Lions
9	North Melbourne
10	Geelong
11	Western Bulldogs
12	St Kilda
13	Collingwood
14	Melbourne
15	Essendon
16	Gold Coast
17	Greater Western Sydney
18	Carlton

	NAB Cup Round 4		Grand Final
95	Adelaide	vs	West Coast	61	AAMI
			Other games
80	Collingwood	vs	St Kilda	47	VISY Park
112	Port Adelaide	vs	Melbourne	64	AAMI
83	Fremantle	vs	Hawthorn	86	PS
66	GWS	vs	Richmond	140	MAN
103	Sydney	vs	Gold Coast	84	BIS
84	Geelong	vs	W Bulldogs	75	SS
112	Essendon	vs	Brisbane	56	VISY Park
100	Carlton	vs	North Melb	116	VISY Park

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irelander
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	ROUND 1
37	GWS	vs	Sydney	100	ANZ	Sat N (24 March)
81	Richmond	vs	Carlton	125	MCG	Thur N (29 March)
137	Hawthorn	vs	Collingwood	115	MCG	Fri N (30)
78	Melbourne	vs	Brisbane	119	MCG	Sat D (31)
68	Gold Coast	vs	Adelaide	137	MS	Sat T
105	Fremantle	vs	Geelong	101	PS	Sat T
102	North Melb	vs	Essendon	104	ES	Sat N
87	W Bulldogs	vs	West Coast	136	ES	Sun D (1 April)
89	Port Adelaide	vs	St Kilda	85	AAMI	Sun T

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zxcvcxz
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Brenton Sanderson has won more premierships in 4 weeks than Neil Craig did in 7 years.

irelander
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Not a hard feat tbh Still though, from early signs, he seems the right guy for the job to take the Crows forward. Hopefully McCartney will be likewise for the Bulldogs.

irelander
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	ROUND 2
63	Brisbane	vs	Carlton	154	G	Thur N
111	Essendon	vs	Port Adelaide	86	ES	Sat D
94	Sydney	vs	Fremantle	81	SCG	Sat D
166	West Coast	vs	Melbourne	58	PS	Sat D
82	Adelaide	vs	W Bulldogs	64	AAMI	Sat N
85	Collingwood	vs	Richmond	64	MCG	Sat N
183	North Melb	vs	GWS	54	BA	Sun D
139	St Kilda	vs	Gold Coast	47	ES	Sun T
92	Geelong	vs	Hawthorn	90	MCG	Mon D

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TravD
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Good games last Saturday night - Frem vs. Geel and NM vs. Ess - quality games. I also think Hayden Ballantyne got what he deserved.

Ladder Predictions (2012) - yes, I know I'm 2 weeks late
1. HAWTHORN
2. WEST COAST
3. GEELONG
4. FREMANTLE
5. CARLTON
6. ADELAIDE
7. SYDNEY
8. COLLINGWOOD
9. Essendon
10. North Melbourne
11. Richmond
12. St Kilda
13. Port Adelaide
14. Melbourne
15. Brisbane
16. Western Bulldogs (sorry irelander )
17. Gold Coast
18. Greater Western Sydney

Premiers - too hard to predict now...

irelander
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We won't be that low

irelander
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	ROUND 3
122	Carlton	vs	Collingwood	62	MCG	Fri N
133	Richmond	vs	Melbourne	74	MCG	Sat D
83	Port Adelaide	vs	Sydney	105	AAMI	Sat D
64	Fremantle	vs	Brisbane	35	PS	Sat D
40	W Bulldogs	vs	St Kilda	103	ES	Sat N
88	Gold Coast	vs	Essendon	105	MS	Sat N
69	GWS	vs	West Coast	150	BIS	Sun D
140	Hawthorn	vs	Adelaide	84	MCG	Sun D
131	North Melb	vs	Geelong	114	ES	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 4
79	St Kilda	vs	Fremantle	92	ES	Fri N
79	Carlton	vs	Essendon	109	MCG	Sat D
97	Collingwood	vs	Port Adelaide	73	ES	Sat D
96	Adelaide	vs	GWS	50	AAMI	Sat T
111	Brisbane	vs	Gold Coast	46	G	Sat N
51	West Coast	vs	Hawthorn	46	PS	Sat N
75	Geelong	vs	Richmond	65	SS	Sun D
113	Sydney	vs	North Melb	77	SCG	Sun D
67	Melbourne	vs	W Bulldogs	88	MCG	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 5 (Anzac Day)
80	Collingwood	vs	Essendon	79	MCG	Wed D
57	Fremantle	vs	Carlton	65	PS	Fri N
62	GWS	vs	W Bulldogs	104	MAN	Sat D
127	North Melb	vs	Gold Coast	93	ES	Sat T
66	Melbourne	vs	St Kilda	84	MCG	Sat N
41	Brisbane	vs	Geelong	79	G	Sat N
69	Hawthorn	vs	Sydney	106	AUR	Sun D
97	Richmond	vs	West Coast	107	ES	Sun D
110	Adelaide	vs	Port Adelaide	91	AAMI	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 6
77	W Bulldogs	vs	Collingwood	98	ES	Fri N
129	Essendon	vs	Brisbane	62	ES	Sat D
119	Geelong	vs	Melbourne	76	SS	Sat D
87	Gold Coast	vs	Fremantle	94	MS	Sat T
94	Sydney	vs	Adelaide	99	SCG	Sat N
88	St Kilda	vs	Hawthorn	123	MCG	Sat N
110	Carlton	vs	GWS	43	ES	Sun D
54	Port Adelaide	vs	Richmond	91	AAMI	Sun D
120	West Coast	vs	North Melb	95	PS	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 7
49	Melbourne	vs	Hawthorn	115	MCG	Fri N
94	GWS	vs	Gold Coast	67	MAN	Sat D
122	Adelaide	vs	Geelong	72	AAMI	Sat D
91	Richmond	vs	Sydney	62	MCG	Sat T
58	Brisbane	vs	Collingwood	116	G	Sat N
113	Essendon	vs	West Coast	52	ES	Sat N
83	North Melb	vs	W Bulldogs	101	ES	Sun D
87	Fremantle	vs	Port Adelaide	47	PS	Sun D
122	St Kilda	vs	Carlton	98	ES	Mon N

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irelander
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	ROUND 8
96	Collingwood	vs	Geelong	84	MCG	Fri N
95	Port Adelaide	vs	North Melb	93	AAMI	Sat D
119	Hawthorn	vs	Fremantle	63	AUR	Sat D
138	Sydney	vs	Melbourne	37	SCG	Sat T
72	W Bulldogs	vs	Gold Coast	34	TIO	Sat N
128	Essendon	vs	Richmond	109	MCG	Sat N
132	Brisbane	vs	GWS	40	G	Sun D
55	Carlton	vs	Adelaide	124	ES	Sun D
121	West Coast	vs	St Kilda	91	PS	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 9
75	W Bulldogs	vs	Geelong	95	ES	Fri N
137	Richmond	vs	Hawthorn	75	MCG	Sat D
70	Gold Coast	vs	Port Adelaide	118	MS	Sat D
111	St Kilda	vs	Sydney	83	ES	Sat T
49	Adelaide	vs	Collingwood	75	AAMI	Sat N
53	GWS	vs	Essendon	119	SKD	Sat N
112	North Melb	vs	Brisbane	96	ES	Sun D
107	Carlton	vs	Melbourne	49	MCG	Sun D
84	West Coast	vs	Fremantle	36	PS	Sun T

Some interesting games this round, including GWS's first game at their newly renovated stadium, Skoda Stadium. The Western Derby and Adelaide-Collingwood games should be exciting.
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irelander
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	ROUND 10
113	St Kilda	vs	Richmond	121	ES	Fri N
126	Geelong	vs	GWS	61	SS	Sat D
174	Hawthorn	vs	North Melb	59	AUR	Sat D
82	Fremantle	vs	Adelaide	111	PS	Sat T
99	Port Adelaide	vs	Carlton	45	AAMI	Sat N
52	Essendon	vs	Melbourne	58	MCG	Sat N
102	Brisbane	vs	West Coast	100	G	Sun D
132	Sydney	vs	W Bulldogs	40	SCG	Sun D
149	Collingwood	vs	Gold Coast	52	MCG	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 11
85	Carlton	vs	Geelong	97	ES	Fri N
66	Richmond	vs	Fremantle	78	MCG	Sat D
49	Gold Coast	vs	St Kilda	144	MS	Sat T
82	Essendon	vs	Sydney	86	ES	Sat N
62	Port Adelaide	vs	Hawthorn	108	AAMI	Sun T
87	Melbourne	vs	Collingwood	129	MCG	Mon D

Bye: Adelaide, Brisbane, GWS, North Melb, West Coast, W Bulldogs
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happypeople
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go tigers!!! on a roll, richmond will steamrole Freo.

irelander
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	ROUND 12
79	West Coast	vs	Carlton	69	PS	Thu N
115	Adelaide	vs	St Kilda	111	AAMI	Fri N
74	GWS	vs	Richmond	86	SKD	Sat D
80	Gold Coast	vs	North Melb	87	MS	Sat N
135	Hawthorn	vs	Brisbane	70	MCG	Sun D
95	W Bulldogs	vs	Port Adelaide	57	ES	Sun T

Bye: Collingwood, Geelong, Essendon, Melbourne, Fremantle, Sydney
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irelander
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	ROUND 13
80	Sydney	vs	Geelong	74	SCG	Fri N
56	W Bulldogs	vs	Brisbane	114	ES	Sat D
85	Collingwood	vs	West Coast	82	MCG	Sat T
89	Fremantle	vs	Essendon	113	PS	Sat N
135	Melbourne	vs	GWS	57	MCG	Sun D
121	North Melb	vs	Adelaide	89	ES	Sun T

Bye: Carlton, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Richmond, St Kilda
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irelander
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	ROUND 14
70	Carlton	vs	Hawthorn	120	MCG	Fri N
107	Collingwood	vs	Fremantle	78	MCG	Sat D
106	Adelaide	vs	Richmond	87	AAMI	Sat D
166	West Coast	vs	Gold Coast	40	PS	Sat T
140	Essendon	vs	W Bulldogs	56	ES	Sat N
132	Sydney	vs	GWS	38	ANZ	Sat N
99	Geelong	vs	Port Adelaide	61	SS	Sun D
122	Brisbane	vs	Melbourne	61	G	Sun D
103	St Kilda	vs	North Melb	136	ES	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 15
62	Collingwood	vs	Carlton	85	MCG	Fri N
84	North Melb	vs	West Coast	86	BA	Sat D
78	Melbourne	vs	Richmond	101	MCG	Sat D
110	Sydney	vs	Brisbane	63	SCG	Sat T
133	St Kilda	vs	Essendon	62	ES	Sat N
58	Port Adelaide	vs	Adelaide	116	AAMI	Sat N
193	Hawthorn	vs	GWS	31	MCG	Sun D
96	Gold Coast	vs	Geelong	110	MS	Sun D
95	Fremantle	vs	W Bulldogs	57	PS	Sun T

I went to Haw-GWS lulz
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irelander
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	ROUND 16
149	North Melb	vs	Carlton	96	ES	Fri N
83	Melbourne	vs	Fremantle	117	ES	Sat D
77	Port Adelaide	vs	Essendon	127	AAMI	Sat D
88	Richmond	vs	Gold Coast	90	CZS	Sat T
79	Geelong	vs	Collingwood	110	MCG	Sat N
92	Brisbane	vs	St Kilda	105	G	Sat N
59	GWS	vs	Adelaide	178	SKD	Sun D
44	W Bulldogs	vs	Hawthorn	116	ES	Sun D
69	West Coast	vs	Sydney	121	PS	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 17
134	Geelong	vs	Essendon	67	ES	Fri N
91	Collingwood	vs	Hawthorn	138	MCG	Sat D
124	Adelaide	vs	West Coast	75	AAMI	Sat D
48	Gold Coast	vs	Brisbane	59	MS	Sat T
84	W Bulldogs	vs	Carlton	102	ES	Sat N
56	Melbourne	vs	Port Adelaide	84	TIO	Sat N
105	Sydney	vs	St Kilda	76	SCG	Sun D
99	Richmond	vs	North Melb	103	MCG	Sun D
132	Fremantle	vs	GWS	37	PS	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 18
86	Essendon	vs	Hawthorn	180	ES	Fri N
102	Geelong	vs	Adelaide	75	SS	Sat D
127	North Melb	vs	Melbourne	73	ES	Sat D
54	GWS	vs	Collingwood	174	SKD	Sat T
95	Carlton	vs	Richmond	91	MCG	Sat N
54	Gold Coast	vs	Sydney	126	MS	Sat N
48	Port Adelaide	vs	Fremantle	75	AAMI	Sun D
118	St Kilda	vs	W Bulldogs	42	ES	Sun D
175	West Coast	vs	Brisbane	77	PS	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 19
116	Hawthorn	vs	Geelong	118	MCG	Fri N
61	W Bulldogs	vs	North Melb	115	ES	Sat D
107	GWS	vs	Port Adelaide	73	SKD	Sat D
113	Fremantle	vs	West Coast	48	PS	Sat T
91	Collingwood	vs	St Kilda	85	MCG	Sat N
84	Brisbane	vs	Richmond	132	G	Sat N
108	Melbourne	vs	Gold Coast	66	MCG	Sun D
71	Carlton	vs	Sydney	93	ES	Sun D
104	Adelaide	vs	Essendon	100	AAMI	Sun T

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savagegrant
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I re-did my final Top 8 predictions by using Bailey Ladders' Ladder & Finals Predictor to select who I felt would win their remaining home & away season matches, without guessing particular winning margins. Here's my predictions...

http://i46.tinypic.com/ionjpk.png

Predictor - http://www.afl.com.au/bailey%20ladder%20predictor/tabid/13046/default.aspx

So I feel that the loss to the Dorkers yesterday is gonna be a costly one. I think it will leave us a game out of the Top 4 and therefore not a serious chance to take the flag. We'd beat your mob in an elimination final though Chrissy. At least I've got those buggers finishing outside the 8 on percentage. Oh, the heartache! heheh

(sorry for putting my earlier preds in the wrong thread Irish ;P)

Chris A
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Your team sucks, we beat you earlier in the year, we can do it again


We have alot of good players returning over the next two weeks, game on.

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TravD
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I'm surely you've seen it, but Matthew Pavilich 8.2 (50) def West Coast Eagles 6.12 (48)

Poor Eagles though

I'm predicting the Hawks to win the Premiership, with either the Swans or Cats in the Grand Final with them (unsure about the Crows and Magpies). The Eagles, Bombers and Dockers will round out the 8, with the Saints missing out at 9, and Gold Coast for the wooden spoon

savagegrant
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Not on our turf you didn't Chrissy. It would be our home final. Do the predictor Travie.

Chris A
Member

We'll see when it comes to it, we might not even finish 8th

savagegrant
Member

I rather your mob makes it than the Dorkers, especially if we had to play them in an elimination final.

Chris A
Member

I meant we could finish 7th if we beat North, Carlton & Richmond in the next 3 weeks maybe even 6th

freakystevie1
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I was thinking Gold Coast were a certaintly to win next week as GWS (with that win) had gotten all they need out the season and would want the number 1 pick..... BUT Gold Coast got a lot of injuries in their game against Melbourne so I'm starting to doubt now.

I also reckon the Top 8 is basically decided, Fremantle might scrap in but I suspect that they will just miss out maybe by percentage. West Coast are gone the injuries have finally caught up with them. At this stage Hawthorn look most likely to win the Premiership with either Collingwood or Sydney making the Grand Final, Geelong will come home strong but will most likely fall just short.

freakystevie1
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I've gone through the Ladder Predictor on the AFL site and I have the ladder as

1. Sydney 76
2. Adelaide 72
3. Collingwood 68
4. Hawthorn 64
5. Geelong 60
6. North Melbourne 56
7. West Coast 52
8. Essendon 52 (only by a very small percentage margin)

9. Fremantle 52 (may make the 8 if they can beat Melbourne in Rd 23 by a good margin)
10. St Kilda 48
11. Carlton 44
12. Richmond 40
13. Brisbane 36
14. Port Adelaide 20
15. Western Bulldogs 20
16. Melbourne 16
17. Gold Coast 8
18.GWS Giants 8
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irelander
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I'd say, at this point, Carlton and Richmond are out of the equation, but it'll be interesting to see who will squeeze in.

	ROUND 20
102	West Coast	vs	Geelong	97	PS	Fri N
107	St Kilda	vs	Melbourne	82	MCG	Sat D
119	Adelaide	vs	Fremantle	91	AAMI	Sat D
109	Gold Coast	vs	GWS	79	MS	Sat T
70	Sydney	vs	Collingwood	78	ANZ	Sat N
113	Carlton	vs	Brisbane	77	ES	Sat N
159	Hawthorn	vs	Port Adelaide	87	AUR	Sun D
150	Richmond	vs	W Bulldogs	80	MCG	Sun D
76	Essendon	vs	North Melb	100	ES	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 21
123	Geelong	vs	St Kilda	81	ES	Fri N
60	Essendon	vs	Carlton	156	MCG	Sat D
59	GWS	vs	Melbourne	84	SKD	Sat D
94	Fremantle	vs	Richmond	72	PS	Sat T
61	Collingwood	vs	North Melb	91	ES	Sat N
95	Brisbane	vs	Adelaide	85	G	Sat N
50	Port Adelaide	vs	West Coast	98	AAMI	Sun D
85	W Bulldogs	vs	Sydney	167	ES	Sun D
129	Hawthorn	vs	Gold Coast	65	MCG	Sun T

irelander
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	ROUND 22
102	Richmond	vs	Essendon	57	MCG	Fri N
163	St Kilda	vs	GWS	35	ES	Sat D
93	Port Adelaide	vs	Brisbane	104	AAMI	Sat D
95	Sydney	vs	Hawthorn	102	SCG	Sat T
107	West Coast	vs	Collingwood	58	PS	Sat N
98	Gold Coast	vs	Carlton	86	MS	Sat N
107	Geelong	vs	W Bulldogs	73	SS	Sun D
79	North Melb	vs	Fremantle	132	ES	Sun D
81	Melbourne	vs	Adelaide	150	MCG	Sun T

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irelander
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	ROUND 23
95	Hawthorn	vs	West Coast	70	MCG	Fri N
112	Geelong	vs	Sydney	78	SS	Sat D
153	Adelaide	vs	Gold Coast	62	AAMI	Sat D
77	GWS	vs	North Melb	105	SKD	Sat T
72	Essendon	vs	Collingwood	104	MCG	Sat N
101	Fremantle	vs	Melbourne	40	PS	Sat N
91	Carlton	vs	St Kilda	106	ES	Sun D
106	Richmond	vs	Port Adelaide	106	MCG	Sun D
128	Brisbane	vs	W Bulldogs	61	G	Sun T

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irelander
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A Port Adelaide player has died in Las Vegas on an end-of-season trip.

It has been confirmed that it was ex-Collingwood player John McCarthy.
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TravD
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^I heard about that, very sad news

But such good games this past week, go FREMANTLE and WEST COAST!!!

Looks like they've both got a hard job ahead, with Adelaide and Collingwood respectively.

I still think Hawthorn and Sydney will still play in the Grand Final, with the Hawks winning the GF by 15 pts.

freakystevie1
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I have to agree with Trav D. It looks like a Hawthorn/Sydney Grand Final. Although I'd still think Collingwood would have a good shot at beating Sydney in their Prelim Final (if they can get past West Coast).

I can't see either West Coast or Fremantle being able to win three games on the road to win the flag though. So I'd expect both to lose this week, although Freo have at least half a chance against the Crows. West Coast virtually no chance against the Pies. They just don't play well at the MCG.

irelander
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	Finals Wk 1
135	Hawthorn	vs	Collingwood	97	MCG	Fri N	QF
42	Adelaide	vs	Sydney	71	AAMI	Sat D	QF
80	Geelong	vs	Fremantle	96	MCG	Sat N	EF
162	West Coast	vs	North Melb	66	PS	Sun D	EF

	Finals Wk 2
81	Adelaide	vs	Fremantle	71	AAMI	Fri N	SF
73	Collingwood	vs	West Coast	60	MCG	Sat N	SF

	Finals Wk 3
96	Sydney	vs	Collingwood	70	ANZ	Fri N	SF
97	Hawthorn	vs	Adelaide	92	MCG	Sat T	SF

	Grand Final
81	Hawthorn	vs	Sydney	91	MCG	Sat D

Tomorrow's Grand Final between Hawthorn and Sydney will be the third time these teams have met this season. Sydney won in Tasmania early in the season but Hawthorn beat the Swans in Sydney just before the finals. With the possible weather for tomorrow, plus the fact that only two teams have cracked the 100 during this finals series, my guess is tomorrow will be quite low scoring. Even though I think this will the benefit the Swans somewhat, my tip will be Hawthorn to win by 11 points.
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irelander
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Sydney are the Premiers, defeating Hawthorn 91 to 81.

Hijinx
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Good game.

NationOfZealots
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Best game in a few years for me, v close all the way.

crazychris
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Go Sydneyyy! Their second quarter was brilliant.

TravD
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Solid game of Footy yesterday. Not as good as the 2006 Grand Final (WCE vs. SYD), but a very good performance from both teams. Bring on 2013!

Oh, and I predict Melbourne Storm to win by 8 pts in the NRL grand final.