Would it be safe to say madonna would not have another success with a ballad single till 'rain' ? 'Oh Father' flopped and so did 'Dear Jessie' (the latter i think is quite good). I never saw the film 'crazy for you' was taken from but i did wonder why i had seen that it was from a soundtrack with a name i'd never heard of. Great job,gavin!
Quite a few one hit wonder debuts this week. Divine only had 1 top 10 single in 1984,Til Tuesday i didn't know even charted.The appearance of michael winslow shows how annoyingly popular the police academy films were at that time(for the record i've never seen them) Great chart gavin,had no idea about those songs that certain artists hate,though cyndi lauper i think was justified in dislking her song lol
The thing that came to mind looking at that line up (and maybe this is an age thing) was how big so many of those bands were compared to the concerts you see that are done for charity events these days.Groups like duran duran,boomtown rats to name a few. Back then never in your wildest dreams would you think that all these groups would be together in the one place.
This is a week where i know a lot of the entries by name,but not how they sound.Gav,who would topple madonna off the top spot? Looking at that chart i couldn't work it out. Is quite possible now i look at it that madonna could have been knocked off by...madonna! Guess we'll find out soon enough. Love seeing these charts,gavin!
Despite how it may seem i'm not as psychic or intuitive as it may appear.When i was scanning the chart something you'd said rung a bell with me..i could be wrong though. Looking at some of those new entries i think beach boys were pretty much forgotten by australia by this time.They were big in the 60's and 70's but it wouldn't be for about another 3 years before they'd have a big success again.All thanks to a guy famous for jumping up and down on a talk show hosts couch lol
Cool stuff as always gav. I've begun to really look forward to these charts now.Was listening to a radio show counting down the top 20 in the uk from this week in 1985 and the difference in both top 5's were interesting.While we had madonna spending the 4th and last week at the top,the uk had 'Frankie' by sister sledge also spending it's 4th and last week at the top of the charts. Far as i know that single didn't do nearly as well here.
Gav,could that be the only time that a) an artist has replaced itself at #1 and also had both singles come from different movie soundtracks. Into the groove was from 'Desperately Seeking Susan(not sure if angel featured in the film too,i never saw it) and then 'Crazy For You' was from Visionquest
Nice work as always gav. I love prince's raspberry beret.One of his best tracks and the video is cool. It may sound tragic but i'm probably one of the few who actually likes denise lasalle's 'my toot toot' . i even made it a song of the day some time ago.In the uk chart show i listened to this week they did another 1985 chart,about 6 weeks after the last one and it's such a contrast and it always surprises me the differences. Madonna had 2 singles in the top 3 Holiday (1985) and into the groove which was #1. Dire straits were #5
The year's highest number of new entries, including Freeway Of Love, Frankie, Crazy In The Night (Barking At Airplanes), In Too Deep, Like A Surgeon, Icing On the Cake, Goodbye Bad Times, Forever Young and Tomb Of Memories.
Plus, top 50 misses from Belouis Some, Freddie Mercury, V Spy V Spy and Jean Knight.
You'd never think that someone so successful as Whitney Houston would have a chart flop. She did much later in her career,but come 1987 she'd get that richly deserved success. I like Carly Simon's music but i can understand why she didn't do that well here. Her music is very much a niche market and with pop music being so big around this time there was no place for her to fit into.
Paul'72, I asked about that recently - whether ARIA positions 51-100 could be added to the database, as well as whether data before mid 1988 could be added, but was told that the site did not have permission to add that information. ARIA licensed the top 50 portion of the Kent Report (which published a full top 100) chart from around mid 1983 until June 19, 1988. ARIA began compiling their own chart after that. The Kent Report had been in existence since 1974.
The first printed ARIA top 50 chart available in record stores was this one, dated 10th July 1983 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7OxWO4I2NY , but there were some New South Wales printed (top 40, I think) ARIA charts from a few months prior to that. Last edited:
I can't think of any artist who ever did a pretty good version of 'Love Don't Live Here Anymore'. Even madonna's version was pretty dire. Is a shame Chris Rea never had much australian success.I doubt many people would even know who he is nowadays as he'd never get played on radio.
Thanks Nugs, didn't realise all the technicalities and sort of thought charts were public info. Be interesting to see if ARIA changes it's mind down the track. Gavin - I've asked ARIA once before and they said they were "working on it". Could you possibly compile a list of the Top 50 songs for the 1990's based on your own knowledge/observations. There is a list on wikipedia but it doesn't break it down to Australian charts. No.1 is a given (Diana/Elton John), but I would be interested on the remainder and where songs ranked. Cheers, Paul
I wouldn't be able to come up with a top 50 of the 90s based on sales unfortunately. We'll have to wait on ARIA for that.
The only other way to compare songs from the 90s would be by chart performance (no. weeks on the chart/peak position etc), which is how the AMR did their EOY charts and how the decade chart from the 80s was calculated.
Interesting stuff about Jennifer Rush that i didn't know. Nice debut for simply red. Would australia be one of the few countries to give them early success? I thought they didn't achieve a UK top 20 until 1986.
Thanks so much for sharing all these past ARIA chart goodness. I just have a quick question, cause my brain is refusing to wrong. What year was the first ARIA approved chart published. I had no idea they were publishing chart pre-1988. I knew they used the AMR chart, but looking at your scans is amazing so see the movement of songs and albums on a weekly level.
Looking at that chart(more like squinting,sorry gav,not your fault) would the next #1 be 'Power Of Love' then (the jennifer rush version i mean) From listening to a UK 1985 chart this week she spent her last of her 5 week run at the top there,but curious how many weeks she managed here. Thanks for posting these gav,favourite parts of the week!
I know! I never collected these charts (I started in mid 87) so I had the choice between low res scans or scans with scribble on them.
I am trying to track down high res versions of all the charts between July 83 (when they started) and July 87 (when I started collecting), but it's a slow process. If anyone can help out with any weeks, please let me know!
Jennifer isn't the next number 1, but she's not far off.
Another question for gav to tease us on(in a good way mind you!) was thinking have we seen what will be the biggest selling single in aus for 1985 yet? I know what it was in the uk,and probably the u.s,but us aussies don't always follow the trend.
We have seen the number 1 single for 1985 already. Whether or not it was the highest-selling single is another question entirely, since the end of year charts were calculated by points for peak position, weeks on chart etc rather than sales.
I'll run through the end of year chart in the post for the final weekly chart for the year - for both 1985 and 1990.
Interesting that A-Ha made it to #1 here. We're considered fairly backwater compared to the UK and the US(although possibly it hit no.1 in the US) In the Uk it stalled at #2,held off by 'The Power Of Love'.
'Take on Me's a(n overplayed) classic, but I think the UK got it right with 'The Sun Always Shines on TV' going to #1 instead. 'Take on Me' is the more 'hits and memories' (as a friend put it) iconic, but TSASOT(V) is actually the 'better' song... IMO of course
regarding 'Sisters are doing it for themselves' from what i heard recently someone said tina turner turned down the song because she thought it was too feminist. An aretha/tina turner duet would have been cool.just not this track.
I had never seen those poster edition music charts (I had heard about long ago) so that is a very interesting bit of chart memorabilia there. I also didn't ever know of that early Tina Arena song. Much in the same way I didn't know Delta had an early release until I read chatter about it on this site some time ago. In line with the eventual chart success, I do think Dee C Lee had the best of the new entries. RIP Glenn Frey, new at #50 on that chart & his 2nd highest solo song charter.
It was quite the wave of charity singles in the mid/late '80s. I suppose the success of 'Do They Know It's Christmas' kicked off the trend in much the way that 'Stars on 45' helped the medley craze a few years earlier. It's a pity Dire Strait's single 'Brothers In Arms' couldn't crack the Top 50, but not so for the album, continuing to sell relentlessly at this time. Any reasonable a-ha fan would know they certainly weren't one-hit wonders. How strange it would be if anyone in the UK thinks that, given they had a few Top 5 hits there. 'The Sun Always Shines on TV' is quite a grand track. 'Don't Break My Heart' and 'One Vision' I don't remember all that well. I'd obviously not given 'One Vision' a close listen right through before as I had to confirm its lyrics on what I was surprised to hear just now at the end ... “fried chicken”. I'd say when I first checked out charts of this era, one of the bigger surprises for me was how well 'Miami Vice Theme' actually charted as I do not ever recall hearing it on radio and was not aware it was a single. 'That's What Friends Are For' I recall from very young as a pop friendly track.
'Opportunities' was a miss for me too. Perhaps its appeal was the new sound that PSB brought in at the time. Heart's 'Never' I do not remember (except by title). Great recent releases there for Stevie Nicks, The Waterboys, Fine Young Cannibals and I don't mind the Falco song either. That Big Audio Dynamite song 'The Bottom Line' I do not know. The riff reminded me a little of Pink Floyd's 'Run Like Hell' initially but with less impact, but on more listens it is not alike at all really.
'Opportunities' is a great song by the Pet Shop Boys. Though I wasn't a fan at the time when it was released (that didn't happen until 'Always on my Mind' was released), when I discovered their first album 'Please', and then 'Disco', 'Opportunities' has always been a favourite from that period of releases.
I like 'You're A Friend Of Mine' and that's about it. The bronski beat changes in line up probably resulted in the eventual break up of the band. Here you have jimmy sommerville whose lyrics reflected a time in his life (to this day i cannot and have never watched the whole video for 'Smalltown Boy' though i have wiki'd it. The video makes me very uncomfortable) and then when you try and replace him with a similar sounding voice,i think for the fans there's obviously gonna be a disconnect.Did the new singer look anything like sommerville at all?
'A Good Heart' is a nice song. I'm glad that history made it a #1 hit here. 'Weird Science' I don't recall. I remember Oingo Boingo's single 'Stay' much better (later in 1986). 'Something' from V. Spy V. Spy and 'Sex And Fame' from Jump Incorporated I've also forgotten or never heard. 'Sex And Fame' has the better sound for me of these, but is unusual in that the choruses appear to be the weaker parts of the overall song. The 4 highest debuts I know well and like, so I am happy they did well chart wise although 'Sounds Of Then' (a song sometimes not recognised by its title) ought to have had a better peak than #35 in my opinion. I see the Sting's album doing quite well (33 weeks in) given that the singles weren't doing so well at least up to this point in time. Obviously the album was well received by the public. The title "The Dream Of The Blue Turtles" is a more memorable one over the years.
Of the two charts that are being discussed each week i'm finding i'm enjoying 1986 more than 1991. 1991 has a lot more songs that i know and some make me look back and think why did i like this so much then,but 1986 has a lot more music i never heard or heard much.I was watching a doco on The Go-Go's just last night which had reminded me that jane wiedlin went solo.I know she had good success in the UK but not sure if that was her sole hit here. Concrete and clay i don't mind,but not heard it in a long time. As for next weeks clues,i thought the movie star might have been bruce willis but i don't think he did 'under the boardwalk' until 1988.
The 1986 chart is definitely better than the 1991 one so far. I didn't really notice it as much at the time (probably because I was getting more into music that didn't chart in Oz), but there's a notable decline in quality when comparing even 1989 to 1990 or 1991.
I'm pleasantly surprised with some of the lower debuts. I enjoyed the Gary Moore, Talk Talk and Petra songs, all different to each other. 'Death Defying' I knew but didn't know of the Kakadu NP filmed video. Brings back some memories. I was all prepared to dislike 'Stairway To Heaven', having not actually stopped to listen to this before. Some would say that's too great a classic to cover, right? Me included in a way. But I gotta say, beyond the carbon copy beginning, the musical arrangements kept me interested. Sounds a bit like the 'Relax' beat and has Phil Collins style drums after that 2 minute mark. Yes, quite 80s-esque. Hits a good stride beyond the 4th minute. On the whole though, I'm not completely sure as a complete listen. 'Silent Running (On Dangerous Ground)' is quite brilliant, but I don't like the video clip idea. Maybe those guys should've filmed in Kakadu. 'Harlem Shuffle' overperformed on the charts in my opinion. 'Absolute Beginners' is quite good, although I don't know why it surged straight into the Top 10 (as the movie was a flop, not that I even recall there was a movie). Well done to Jennifer Rush's 23 week run for 'The Power Of Love' on the chart. That was a rarer feat back then. A few weeks better than Celine's version in the next decade too.
Yet another version of 'Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood' that I can say I now know. It's not bad but wasn't so exciting either. 'Don't Waste My Time' is certainly different from '19'. From my first listen I'd say it has an ok sound. I find '19' to have aged very poorly. I know this song 'Beat's So Lonely' but didn't know he was so young back then. Yes, it has a Billy Idol style about it, more in the musical arrangement than the vocals. I don't recall the other single to come. I don't remember 'The Theme From Time' (except by title) and I'd certainly agree it is not chart-worthy. 11 weeks in the Top 50 is just about as shocking. It's difficult to know how well 'Conga' is expected to have gone on the charts. Latin music is often not embraced on our charts. I've penned it for a #16 peak on my personals. But wow! #1 peak in Canada. I just uncovered another spooky fact. Both Prince's 'Kiss' and the later Art Of Noise / Tom Jones cover both moved into the ARIA Top 50 at position #19! Until now I had no idea what 'Kyrie' meant either.
Gavin,it makes me happy to know you are a pet shop boys fan I don't think west end girls is terrible,but it's not their worst (opportunities (let's make lots of money) is certainly one for the list) There was a recent 4 part radio documentary done for the bbc covering their career up till 'electronic' as it's 30 years since the release of their album 'Please' . Check it out if you find the time as it's very good and features brand new interviews with neil and chris. Have you listened to their new album yet?
That culture club song is very good. So's the van halen one. I can't at all imagine getting daryl hall as a singer for that band. It's like trying to force a square peg in a round hole. The only reason i can think of is around 1985 (when VH would have been writing new songs)is that hall and oates were pretty big.
I'm not sure if I've heard 'Le Bel Age' before from Pat Benatar but I liked it. The Sade track 'Never As Good As The First Time' is a good one too. They did underachieve a few times I think. I like the style of the video too. I'm glad to see this went Top 40 in at least a couple of countries including NZ. Martin Plaza's 'Best Foot Forward' was just ok but kind of forgettable. Much the same for 'The Bigger They Are'.
'After The Love Has Gone' is not memorable to me but it has an ok sound. I did not know Princess used SAW as producers in all this time. The Top 50 debuts are all chartworthy. 'Living In A Dream' surprisingly is the one I am least familiar with. It has some small traces of 'Funky Town' but apart from that positive this well overachieved by making Top 20, in my opinion.
^ That Divinyls 'video' is not official, I'm 99.9% sure. It looks like (a soft-core BDSM?) movie footage put together by a fan.
A fan sent me a Divinyls DVD he made 10 years ago that was fairly comprehensive, but had no 'Heart Telegraph' video on it. I assume one doesn't exist.
The Blow Monkeys video was relatively tame considering the subject matter; but I guess that was perhaps the point? Though the large pink umbrella like those used in drinks was a subtle hint. Last edited:
The top 50 misses this week (in 1986) were a very non-descript bunch, though I had no idea Tim Freedman had charted before The Whitlams, and I always enjoy seeing clips from Sounds or other music shows from the time.
Doug Mulray's "song" wasn't worth bothering with at the time, and certainly hasn't improved with age. If he was having a go at a famous pop star, the satire misses the mark by not being either clever nor funny.
On the positive side, some absolute classics in the Australian chart debuts for Janet Jackson, Samantha Fox & Wa Wa Nee, Peter Gabriel's best song, a classic Whitney ballad, and solid songs from a-ha, Simple Minds, Mr Mister and great one-hit wonders from Sly Fox & Lana Pellay. Last edited:
I love "Out Of Control" and the next two singles from Kids In The Kitchen. It's a shame that their popularity was declining while their material wasn't (unlike Uncanny X-Men who were going through the same, but their new songs were arguably weaker).
"One Hit (To The Body)" is actually one of my favourite Rolling Stones tracks, far better than "Harlem Shuffle".
It's a music miracle - the take-home ARIA chart returns! And there are 10 new entries from Erasure, Janet Jackson, Midnight Oil, Boom Crash Opera, The Cure, Moody Blues, El DeBarge, I'm Talking, David Lee Roth and Joe Cocker.
Plus, top 50 misses from V-Capri and Innocent Bystanders.