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Forum - ARIA Charts: Special Occasion Charts - ARIA 2017 Year End Chart

Even though we are still 2 months away from early January, when the 2017 Year End Chart is announced, I thought that it would be good to open a thread where members can make their predictions.

Going through some old topics, I quite enjoyed the quiz Effluvium1 made in 2014, so I decided to make a similar one for 2017

1. Can Ed Sheeran score 4 entries in the Year End Top 10 (yeah Top 10, not Top 100) with Shape Of You, Castle On The Hill, Galway Girl and Perfect?


2. ED SHEERAN - Galway Girl or Perfect?

3. CLEAN BANDIT - Rockabye or Symphony?

4. THE WEEKND - Starboy or I Feel It Coming?

5. BATTLE OF THE GIRLS - Maggie Lindemann's Pretty Girl or Hailee Steinfeld's Most Girls?

6. AUSTRALIA: How many Australian tracks will feature in the list (including songs that feature Australian artists)?
(Worth 5 points - 1 point off per difference)

7. AUSTRALIA: Pnau's Chameleon or Dean Lewis' Waves?

8. AUSTRALIA: Jessica Mauboy's Fallin' just missed the weekly Top 10? Will it make the Year End Top 100 or just miss it?

9. Can Rita Ora score her highest placing ever on a Year End Chart with Your Song, thus beating the #70 spot she achieved with Black Widow in 2014?

10. Can Macklemore score his highest placing ever on a Year End Chart with Glorious, thus beating the #9 spot he achieved with Thrift Shop in 2012?

11. Who will get the most entries (including featurings)?

12. Long running singles in the Top 100: Justin Timberlake's Can't Stop The Feeling or Flume's Never be Like You?

13. Long running singles in the Top 10: Imagine Dragons' Thunder or Shawn Mendes' There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back?

14. How many tracks from 2016's list will also make this year's list?
(Worth 5 points - 1 point off per difference)

14a. What 2016 track will be the highest?

15. EUROPE VS AMERICA: The Chainsmokers' Paris or Miley Cyrus' Malibu?

16. GROUP VS SOLO: Can Camila Cabello's Havana land higher than Fifth Harmony's Work From Home (#15 in 2016)?

17. POST MALONE: Congratulations or Rockstar?

18. ONE DIRECTION: Can all the 5 members score a spot?
18a. SLOW HANDS or STRIP THAT DOWN?

19. CALVIN HARRIS: Feels or Slide?

20. P!NK: Will she be #2 for a 5th year on a Year End Albums Chart woth Beautiful Trauma?
1. No I think Shape of You, Castle on the Hill and Galway Girl will make the top 10 but not Perfect
2. Galway Girl
3. Symphony
4. I Feel It Coming
5. Pretty Girl
6. 8
7. Chameleon
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. No, I feel like it'll be around #9-#12
11. Ed Sheeran
12. Can't Stop the Feeling
13. Thunder
14. 10
14a. Rockabye
15. Malibu
16. No
17. Rockstar
18. Yes
18a. Strip That Down
19. Feels
20. Yes
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1. No
2. Galway Girl
3. Rockabye
4. Starboy
5. Pretty Girl
6. 7
7. Chameleon
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes
11. Ed Sheehan
12. Never Be Like You
13. Thunder
14. 6
14a. Rockabye
15. Malibu
16. No
17. Rockstar
18. Yes
18a. Strip That Down
19. Feels
20. Yes
I'll have a go

1. No
2. Perfect
3. Symphony
4. I Feel It Coming
5. Pretty Girl
6. 7
7. Chameleon
8. make it
9. she will
10. he will
11. [s]Quavo[/s] Khalid (taking a risk here)
12. Can't Stop The Feeling
13. Thunder
14. 5
14a. Rockabye
15. Paris
16. nah
17. Rockstar
18. I think Louis will just miss out so no
18a. Strip That Down
19. Feels
20. Yes

it was just pointed out to me that I missed 14a, thanks 392
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1. No
2. Galway Girl
3. Rockabye
4. Starboy
5. Pretty Girl
6. 8
7. Chameleon (though maybe Waves will get a boost back if he performs it at the ARIAs or something)
8. It will make it
9. Yes
10. Yes
11. a tie between Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber (if I can only pick one, Ed Sheeran)
12. CAN'T STOP THE FEELING!
13. Thunder
14. 9
14a. Rockabye
15. Paris
16. No
17. rockstar
18. Yes
18a. Strip That Down
19. Feels
20. Yes
1. No, only the first three
2. Galway Girl
3. Symphony just
4. again close, probably Starboy just ahead
5. Pretty Girl
6. 10
7. this one is really difficult but I'll go Chameleon because that's what I hope will win
8. Fallin' will make it
9. she will beat it
10. Gonna guess that he'll be just in or just outside the top 10. So no beating his best of #9
11. Alessia Cara , Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber - 4 entries each
12. don't see Never Be Like You making an appearance but Can't Stop The Feeling definitely will, unfortunately
13. feel the lightning and the thunder thunder
14. 8 feels low but I can only be certain of 8 making it honestly
14a. Rockabye
15. Paris has had slightly better longevity so I'm going with that
16. Havana maybe doesn't have enough time left to end up as high as #15 this year. I'll go no
17. rockstar no competition
18. Yes
18a. Strip That Down, as much as I'd love it to be Slow Hands
19. Feels
20. Yes
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1. No
2. Galway Girl
3. Symphony
4. I Feel It Coming
5. Pretty Girl
6. 12
7. Waves
8. It will make it
9. Yes
10. He'll equal it, so no.
11. Ed with 5
12. CSTF
13. Thunder
14. 10
14a. Rockabye
15. Paris
16. Yes
17. Rockstar
18. Yes
18a. Strip That Down
19. Feels
20. Yes
I know its way too early to be doing preds but I'm going to post mine now and edit it along the way until the end of December

PositionSongArtist
1Shape of YouEd Sheeran
2DespacitoLuis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber
3Castle on the HillEd Sheeran
4Something Just like ThisThe Chainsmokers and Coldplay
5ThunderImagine Dragons
6RockstarPost Malone feat. 21 Savage
7HumbleKendrick Lamar
8Galway GirlEd Sheeran
9GloriousMacklemore feat. Skylar Grey
10PerfectEd Sheeran and Beyonce
11There’s Nothing Holdin’ Me BackShawn Mendes
12I’m the OneDJ Khaled feat. Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance the Rapper and Lil Wayne
13Strip That DownLiam Payne feat. Quavo
14Slow HandsNiall Horan
15New RulesDua Lipa
16StayZedd and Alessia Cara
17HavanaCamila Cabello feat. Young Thug
18Too Good At GoodbyesSam Smith
19It Ain’t MeKygo and Selena Gomez
20SymphonyClean Bandit feat. Zara Larsson
21What About UsPink
22Wild ThoughtsDJ Khaled feat. Rihanna and Bryson Tiller
23FeelsCalvin Harris feat. Pharrell Williams, Katy Perry and Big Sean
24I Don’t Wanna Live ForeverZAYN and Taylor Swift
25UnforgettableFrench Montana feat. Swae Lee
26RockabyeClean Bandit feat. Sean Paul and Anne-Marie
27Fresh EyesAndy Grammar
28Green LightLorde
29MamaJonas Blue feat. William Singe
30Young Dumb & BrokeKhalid
31Dusk Till DawnZAYN feat. Sia
32MalibuMiley Cyrus
33That’s What I LikeBruno Mars
34ParisThe Chainsmokers
35IssuesJulia Michaels
36ChameleonPnau
37SlideCalvin Harris feat. Frank Ocean and Migos
38PrayingKesha
39Look What You Made Me DoTaylor Swift
401-800-273-8255Logic feat. Alessia Cara & Khalid
41I Feel It ComingThe Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
4224K MagicBruno Mars 
43CloserThe Chainsmokers feat. Halsey
44Feel It StillPortugal. The Man
45Sign of the TimesHarry Styles
462UDavid Guetta feat. Justin Bieber
47Body Like a Back RoadSam Hunt
48AttentionCharlie Puth
49FriendsJustin Bieber and BloodPop
50Mask OffFuture
51Call on MeStarley
52PassionfruitDrake
53CongratulationsPost Malone feat. Quavo
54SilenceMarshmello feat. Khalid
55Say You Won’t Let GoJames Arthur
56StarboyThe Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
57All Time LowJon Bellion
58AdoreAmy Shark
59Can’t Stop the FeelingJustin Timberlake
60I Fall ApartPost Malone
61Don’t LeaveSnakehips and MØ
62Sorry Not SorryDemi Lovato
63WavesDean Lewis
64You Don’t Know MeJax Jones feat. Raye
65Your SongRita Ora
66RedboneChildish Gambino
67Pretty GirlMaggie Lindemann
68I Like Me BetterLauv
69Chained to the RhythmKaty Perry feat. Skip Marley
70Fallin'Jessica Mauboy
71Scared to Be LonelyMartin Garrix and Dua Lipa
72SwallaJason Derulo feat. Nicki Minaj and Ty Dolla Sign
73Scars to Your BeautifulAlessia Cara
74Good Old DaysMacklemore feat. Kesha
75 …Ready for It?Taylor Swift
76The CureLady Gaga
77BelieverImagine Dragons
78Mi GenteJ Balvin and Willy William faet. Beyonce
79What Lovers DoMaroon 5 feat. SZA
80Never Be like YouFlume feat. Kai
81Bad LiarSelena Gomez
82Back to YouLouis Tomlinson feat. Bebe Rexha and Digital Farm Animals
83CapsizeFrenship and Emily Warren
84WolvesSelena Gomez and Marshmello
85TouchLittle Mix
86StrangerPeking Duk feat. Elliphant
87Most GirlsHailee Steinfeld
88HumanRag’N’Bone Man
89No PromisesCheat Codes feat. Demi Lovato
90DiveEd Sheeran
91SexualNeiked feat. Dyo
92There For YouMartin Garrix and Troye Sivan
93Now or NeverHalsey
94Play That SongTrain
95CocoonMilky Chance
96One DanceDrake feat. Wizkid and Kyla
97LovesickMura Masa feat. ASAP Rocky
98Don’t Wanna KnowMaroon 5 feat. Kendrick Lamar
99Let Me GoHailee Steinfeld and Alesso feat. Florida Georgia Line and watt
100Let You DownNF

101. XO Tour Llif3 - Lil Uzi Vert
102. Black Beatles - Rae Sremmurd feat. Gucci Mane
103. How Far I'll Go - Alessia Cara
104. DNA. - Kendrick Lamar
105. How Long - Charlie Puth
106. How Would You Feel (Paean) - Ed Sheeran
107. Dancing on My Own - Calum Scott
108. Meant to Be - Bebe Rexha feat. Florida Georgia Line
109. Without You - Avicii feat. Sandro Cavazza
110. I Would Like - Zara Larsson

Albums (Top 25)
PositionAlbumArtist
1DivideEd Sheeran
2Beautiful TraumaP!nk
3ReputationTaylor Swift
4TrollsVarious Artists
5MoanaVarious Artists
6Harry StylesHarry Styles
7DamnKendrick Lamar
8ChristmasMichael Buble
9MelodramaLorde
10The Secret Daughter 2Jessica Mauboy
11Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2Various Artists
12Concrete and GoldFoo Fighters
13The Thrill of It AllSam Smith
14xEd Sheeran
15Life is FinePaul Kelly
16EvolveImagine Dragons
17More LifeDrake
18Greatest Hits & InterpretationsTina Arena
19Go Farther in LightnessGang of Youths
20WitnessKaty Perry
21StoneyPost Malone
2225Adele
23GeminiMacklemore
24Triple J Like a Version 13Various Artists
25American TeenKhalid

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Damn, I swear Lil Uzi's gonna miss the list just because ARIA have messed up on more than one occasion.
People are completely underestimating Perfect IMO.
Hmm you could be right, it could do quite well but I don't see it getting anywhere higher than #15
^ Don't underestimate all the time it's spent in the Top 100 before it was officially sent to radios.

I believe we will only have 2 or 3 #1s in the Year End Top 10 (Shape Of You, Despacito and perhaps Rockstar) which would probably be a record.
Yeah, I'm actually starting to agree with you I.E, considering its spent 36 weeks in the top 100 I won't be surprised if people underestimate it. I did a bit of research and I'm pretty sure 2 or 3 would definitely be the record as well
The EOY albums will be super hard to predict this year because...

1. A massive lack of big albums. Compared to the last 5 or 6 years, 2017 has barely had any albums that will go down as massive albums. 2016 had the same problem but there were way more big albums than this year

2. A massive lack of certifications. I know certifications don't always mean everything but it would be a lot easier if there were certifications so it could give people a rough idea of where everything will place
I don't agree about the lack of big albums as Divide and Beautiful Trauma are already sure to sell more than what Adele's 25 did in 2016.
Well besides from those 2 there haven't been any other massive albums
2016 didn't particularly have any big albums either. You just need to look at the Year End Top 10: 2 Christmas albums, one of them having been released in 2011, an album of covers and 2 other 2015 LPs, with 25 even topping the chart. It really was à dead year. At least in 2017 we've had new LPs by Ed Sheeran, P!nk, Taylor Swift and Sam Smith.

The changes of consumer habits who now prefer streaming and who are buying / downloading less and less albums as well as the poor inclusion of streaming in the albums chart explain why albums chart sales are still miserable and why less and less albums are certified.

I'd Say that there are some big eras but due to the changes of consumer habits, it is no longer well reflected into the albums chart.
True, I feel like album certifications need to have streaming to make sure that albums are getting as many certifications as they used to
Streaming has actually been included into albums accreditations since Friday, May 5th. However, "the two tracks attracting most streams are reduced to the level of the average of the next eight highest streamed tracks associated with the album". This rule is a bit stupid IMO. If an album generates some big hits, then it is penalized simply because it includes hits...
I think it's valid, since it's supposed to be measuring the popularity of albums. You need to omit the top two tracks as outliers because otherwise you get a mess like in the US charts where pretty much any big one hit wonder will get a decently charting album if it had already been released, or nothing if it was delayed, even though the album itself is no more popular in the former case.

There's also a manipulation factor to it, where artists will shove old hits on albums just to generate big numbers (and possibly instant certifications). Post Malone's debut album actually went platinum in the US back in March, largely because White Iverson was on it, and I imagine Drake slapped Hotline Bling on Views because it was the only one of his loose singles lying around that'd gotten really popular. Chris Brown encouraged his fans to spam plays for his 45 track album as a transparent way to get numbers.

When people are interested or like an album they do stream it, and the numbers are fair. I'd like to see them higher but they will get there I think. I just blame the way Spotify encourages people to just listen to the top 50 hits, and artists like Taylor Swift snekking to get higher sales.
I think the rule is fair but it is a bit annoying for albums like divide and damn because they were massive and I think damn should be at least platinum. But the rule is good for some albums. DJ Khaled's Grateful hit #7 and only spent a few weeks in the top 50 but without that rule it could've been gold due to the success of 'I'm the One' and 'Wild Thoughts'
The main thing is that more and more consumers don't care for albums as a whole and it is reflected into the ridiculous albums figures. You can just compare albums market in 2000 to today to realize it. I won't be surprised if albums disappear in the next future.

If you want to have an interesting read about changes of the music industry, you shouyld try this blog held by MJDangerous. He's been analysing the music industry on the internet for about 15 years. In his past three articles, he's been explaining the impact of streaming on the music industry and music consumers. If you've got some time, try to give it a go because it's highly interesting and sums up perfectly what I want to explain lol:

http://chartmasters.org/
Will try to read that later when I get the free time.

Don't get me wrong though I do agree with you in regards to how people consume/don't consume albums (I apologise if my post last night read as a bit too 'YOU'RE WRONG'), but in a sense, that apathy should be what's shown in the chart. I don't think we should artificially prop up the numbers to make it seem like people care more than they do, that's just hiding from the truth.
Wow thanks I.E. That completely changed my view on the whole thing
Don't worry Hijhinx. I didn't read your post as 'You're too wrong' at all lol.

I do understand your point but at the same time I can't help thinking that reducing the impact of the 2 most streamed tracks of an album is unfair.

A lot of one hit wonders in the past got big albums (see MC Hammer or Vanilla Ice).

In regards to manipulation, well, that already existed in the past with some acts deliberately releasing or re-releasing albums to artificially inflate sales thanks to fans. Not to mention fans of boy bands buying multiple copies of albums to get the best chart showing ever. It is easier for a fan top buy multiple copies of an album than stream tracks of an album to equal I album sale.

Most people in the past used to buy CD albums thanks to the big hits it generated without being particularly being interested in other tracks or the artist. Without those hits, albums wouldn't have sold as many units. With that ARIA rule, you completely take off the strength of albums, hence the pitiful streaming figures. I know we have the Singles Chart but it should also be reflected in the albums chart IMO. Even though streaming will keep growing, I doubt we'll get much higher figures than what they already are and won't be big enough to compensate the collapse of digital and physical albums sales.
2017 seems to be a pretty average year all round in terms of music. I haven't followed the ARIA charts much this year but after a quick glance of lists above it appears very pop flavoured Hopefully 2018 will be a better uear!
I think it's been a great year for music IMO.
Yeah its been a better year than 2016 for me
iTunes just released their top songs of 2017 in Australia and I thought I'd post the top 50 it here bc this will be a big part of the ARIA EOY

1. Shape of You (of course) - Ed Sheeran
2. Castle on the Hill - Ed Sheeran
3. Despacito - Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber
4. Rockabye - Clean Bandit feat. Sean Paul and Anne-Marie
5. Something Just like This - The Chainsmokers and Coldplay
6. I Don't Wanna Live Forever - ZAYN and Taylor Swift
7. Galway Girl - Ed Sheeran
8. Say You Won't Let Go - James Arthur
9. Starboy - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
10. 24K Magic - Bruno Mars
11. Slow Hands - Niall Horan
12. Fresh Eyes - Andy Grammer
13. Thunder - Imagine Dragons
14. Green Light - Lorde
15. Closer - The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey
16. I Feel It Coming - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
17. Can't Stop the Feeling - Justin Timberlake
18. There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back - Shawn Mendes
19. Stranger - Peking Duk feat. Elliphant
20. Issues - Julia Michaels
21. Sexual - NEIKED feat. Dyo
22. I'm the One - DJ Khaled feat. Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance the Rapper and Lil Wayne
23. It Ain't Me - Kygo & Selena Gomez
24. Strip That Down - Liam Payne feat. Quavo
25. That's What I Like - Bruno Mars
26. Adore - Amy Shark
27. Symphony - Clean Bandit feat. Zara Larsson
28. Human - Rag 'N' Bone Man
29. Stay - Zedd and Alessia Cara
30. Play That Song - Train
31. Dancing on My Own - Calum Scott
32. Sign of the Times - Harry Styles
33. Shout Out to My Ex - Little Mix
34. HUMBLE. - Kendrick Lamar
35. Scars to Your Beautiful - Alessia Cara
36. Malibu - Miley Cyrus
37. You Don't Know Me - Jax Jones feat. RAYE
38. Paris - The Chainsmokers
39. All Time Low - Jon Bellion
40. Waves - Dean Lewis
41. Black Beatles - Rae Sremmurd feat. Gucci Mane
42. Capsize - Frenship and Emily Warren
43. Body Like a Back Road - Sam Hunt
44. Glorious - Macklemore feat. Skylar Grey
45. What About Us - P!nk
46. Mama - Jonas Blue feat. William Singe
47. Chained to the Rhythm - Katy Perry feat. Skip Marley
48. Call on Me - Starley
49. Feels - Calvin Harris feat. Pharrell Williams, Katy Perry and Big Sean
50. Attention - Charlie Puth
A little shocked that Fallin' didn't make the top 50, and that Little Mix and Rae Sremmurd are both so high given they came out last year.
Remember you have to suspend your disbelief regarding the sizes of different hits because digital sales were far higher at the start of year than the end.
I first thought 'Play That Song' looked out of place but can now see that it did have a strong iTunes run.
Play That Song being higher than Humble is ridiculous
Fallin' was #57 btw Chris

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