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I have a question relating to 2 songs that both charted for 15 weeks in 1990.

First song is Glen Mederios featuring Bobby Brown's "She Ain't Worth It" and second song is Mariah Carey's "Vision Of Love".

Below is how they charted in the top 50 in the same weeks. "She Ain't Woth It" is in the first column and "Vision Of Love" in the second.

SAWI VOL
23 --
17 45
13 30
9 20
8 17
8 14
8 10
8 9
11 10
14 10
16 13
21 14
33 18
45 32
46 39
-- 48

My question is how did "Vision Of Love" make the Aria Year end at #67 and "She Ain't Worth It" failed to make the top 100 at all?

Considering they were both charting at the same time and "She Ain't Worth It" had a higher peak and performed better overall. When "She Ain't Worth It" wasn't charting higher than "Vision Of Love" it wasn't too far behind.

If "Vision Of Love" had a year end peak in the 90s it might be believable but the fact that it peaked in the 60's and "She Ain't Worth It" failed to make the top 100 leads me to believe they either left it out or the chart isn't accurate or it's completly wrong.

A song that charted like "She Ain't Worth It" should definitly make the top 100 year end based on it's chart performance alone. 5 weeks in the top 10 is usually a fairly big song & considering it wasn't split between 2 years means something just doesn't make sense.

Any explination to this?
I never noticed She Ain't Worth It wasn't in the top 100 until now. I remember it being in the top 10 for a while too. Something doesn't sound right. Maybe there is a mistake?
K8, this chart from 1990 is the biggest piece of crap ARIA has produced. If you look at each weeks chart, there are many songs that were consistly higher than others but charted lower in the year end.

Check out the chart for Glenn Medeiros and compare the performance to "Turtle Power" by Partners in Kryme (they debuted the same week). I don't think "Turtle" overtook Glenn once but "Turtle Power" appears in the Top 100 year end, when Glenn didn't.

Another omission is Technotronic's "Get Up (Before The Night Is Over)".

A couple more anomalies are "Blaze Of Glory" holding the top spot for 6 weeks, rather late in the year, but only making #20 year end. "Bust A Move" by Young MC was in the Top 50 for a full half year and could only manage #50 year end.

When adding this chart into my "Fun Countdown" estimates, I make my own up! There's just too many things wrong.
ARIA's early to mid 90s year-end charts were often majorly dodgy.

I posted in another thread a while back how strange it was that Kate Bush's 'Rocket Man' peaked at #2 in 1992, spent 14 weeks in the top 50, yet ended up at #100 on the year-end chart (despite all of its charting weeks being in 1992). It was placed 40 places lower than Red Hot Chili Peppers' 'Suck My Kiss' which peaked at #8 a couple of months later and only spent 8 weeks in the top 50 (around the middle of the year, not in the high-sales Xmas period). It was also even placed lower than R Kelly's 'She's Got That Vibe' which peaked at just #28 and only spent 3 weeks in the top 30.

Ce Ce Peniston's 'Finally' had another surprisingly low placing on the 1992 year-end chart, at #99, despite peaking at #8 and spending 15 weeks in the top 50.

I don't know what ARIA based their year-end charts on during this period.

Ricky Martin's 'Shake Your Bon Bon' is another surprise, in the 1999 year-end chart. It peaked at just #27 and spent 9 weeks in the top 50, but was placed higher than many singles with a better chart run.
I could not find a thread to ask for this information i thought this was the closest...

In 1990 when the top 5 resembled the following..
#01: B-52's - Love Shack.
#02: Billy Joel - We Didn't Start The Fire.
#03: Cher - If I Could Turn Back Time.
#04: Martika - I Feel The Earth Move.
#05: Jive Bunny & The Mastermixers - That's What I Like.

What songs occupied the following chart positions?
72, 73, 75, 81, 82, 88, 90, 92, 94, 95, 98, 99, 100?

If anyone could assist it would be very much appreciated.
Is that the first published Top 100 chart NateBoi?

If it is, I've always woindered why ARIA never mentioned what the songs were that fell out that week.
I have no idea...? fingers crossed someone can provide me with the songs.
That is the first chart of 1990 and it is the first time ARIA officially published the Top 100 songs. I checked the spreadsheet bulion gave me, and I'm going to assume that bulion put together that particular Top 100 by using the chart that followed and looking at the LW column. Since the songs in those positions fell out that week and ARIA didn't list them as falling out, bulion was unable to deduce what songs they were. And since ARIA have never released their inhouse Top 100 from 88-89 we may never know those songs for those positions NateBoi - unless an ARIA mole visits our site.
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#72 SOWING THE SEEDS OF LOVE – Tears For Fears

#73 HEAVEN – Warrant

#75 MAKE ME SMILE – Nick Barker & The Reptiles

#81 BLACK VELVET – Alannah Myles

#82 THE BEST THING – Boom Crash Opera

#88 THE AMSTERDAM EP – Simple Minds

#90 GHOSTBUSTERS – Run DMC

#94 DOWNTOWN TRAIN – Rod Stewart

#95 THE ROAD TO HELL – Chris Rea

#98 SISTER - Bros

#99 ROCK AND A HARD PLACE – Rolling Stones

#100 HALLELUJAH – Absent Friends

I tell you what, I do miss the earlier year ends where only about 5 or 10 songs crossed over and appeared in consecutive year ends. These days we are seeing 30 songs appear in consecutive years and not as many songs featuring in the year end charts!

This year alone we are looking at seeing 15 songs that featured in the 2010 year end chart and prob another 15 that will feature in the 2012 year end chart!

Perhaps all sales should be included and not just the sales of songs in the top 100 or songs after 6 months of release should be higher in price!
I photocopied all the charts from 1990 (14th Jan my first one). Songs falling out from previous weeks chart (23rd Dec / 7th Jan) are:

72 WORD GETS AROUND - The Humminbirds
73 COLD HEARTED - Paul Abdul
75 SUMMER - Dragon
81 REVIVAL - The Eurythmics
82 EVERYDAY NOW - Texas
88 MR RAIN - Ian Moss
90 MISTLETOE & WINE - Cliff Richard
92 YOU GOT IT (THE RIGHT STUFF) - New Kids On The Block
94 WAY OF THE WORLD - Max Q
95 I DON"T WANT A LOVER - Texas
98 GET OUT OF THE HOUSE - Boom Crash Opera
99 1-2-3 - The Chimes
100 THE SENSUAL WORLD - Kate Bush
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TimK74 Thank-you so very much! Also thank-you to bulion & BillyBrett who responded with suggestions.

However i am still missing #082?
Any suggestions?
Thanks for that, TimK.

Someone I was in contact with several years ago also had that chart, I believe, as he told me that Paula Abdul's 'Cold Hearted' peaked at #68 on the ARIA chart - its peak must have been taken from this chart. All other chart positions he gave me outside the top 50 were accurate.

TimK (or anyone else) - do you have the Chartifacts columns from 1990 copied too? Occasionally these revealed chart peaks below #50 that peaked between June 1988 and Dec 1989, which ARIA hasn't otherwise released. Two that I remember:


Bomb the Bass 'Say a Little Prayer' #54 - taken from a Chartifacts entry when 'Bug Powder Dust' debuted in late '94/early '95.

Blue Zone 'Jackie' #99 (quite a contrast from its AMR peak of #67) - taken from a Chartifacts entry when BZ featuring Joanne's 'Jackie' debuted in '98.

I'm guessing there must be many chart peaks below #50 revealed in the 1990/early 90s Chartifacts columns.
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@Nateboi ... I've edited my original post to capture #82 from previous week ... not a good week for Texas with 2 dropouts ...

@Nugs ... just have the charts ... no Chartifacts for each week.
Thank-You TimK74 for the edited post including #082.

In 1990 when the top 5 resembled the following..
#01: Righteous Brothers - Unchained Melody.
#02: Vanilla Ice - Ice Baby.
#03: Maria McKee - Show Me Heaven.
#04: Madonna - Justify My Love.
#05: John Farnham - Burn For You.

There is a chart circulating that states; Chart Missing. Italic numbers are guesstimates
The positions in italic are; (Left) = Italic (Current Week) (Right) (Previous Week)
#080 -- Slow Club - Shout Me Down -- #061
#082 -- MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This -- #071
#083 -- Neneh Cherry - I've Got You Under My Skin -- #073
#085 -- Mark Williams - Fix Of Love -- #077
#089 -- Alannah Myles - Lover Of Mine -- #083
#093 -- Poison - Something To Believe In -- #084
#097 -- Traveling Wilburys - She's My Baby -- #086
#098 -- Hothouse Flowers - I Can See Clearly Now -- #088
#099 -- Maxi Priest - Close To You -- #089
#100 -- Jason Donovan - Rhythm Of The Rain -- #091

Okay, how is the chart missing if the majority of the chart is available?
Why are the italic numbers ordered in such a way where the previous week highest ranked will then be the current week highest rank and continue in that same order for the remainder of the italics?
I think this unknown information needs to be sorted.
If anyone could assist once again it would be greatly appreciated!
*No Response.

Any assitance would be useful. Confirmation of official ARIA placings would be preferable.
Ahoy! - Still yet to receive any communication about the previous two posts.

*Below is a list of songs that featured inside the ARIA top 100 Singles Chart in 1990. However these songs original top 100 debut position was in an earlier year. I need to know the original top 100 ARIA debut position. This would be fantastic!
Thank-You in advance.

ABSENT FRIENDS - Hallelujah
ADEVA - Warning
AEROSMITH - Love In An Elevator
ALANNAH MYLES - Love Is
ALICE COOPER - Bed Of Nails
ALICE COOPER - Poison
B-52'S - Love Shack
BAD ENGLISH - When I See You Smile
BEACH BOYS - Still Cruisin'
BELINDA CARLISLE - La Luna
BELINDA CARLISLE - Leave A Light On
BIG FUN - Blame It On The Boogie
BILLY JOEL - We Didn't Start The Fire
BLACK BOX - Ride On Time
BOBBY BROWN - Every Little Step
BOBBY BROWN - On Our Own
BON JOVI - Lay Your Hands On Me
BON JOVI - Living In Sin
BOOM CRASH OPERA - Get Out Of The House
BOOM CRASH OPERA - The Best Thing
CHER - If I Could Turn Back Time
CHER - Just Like Jesse James
CHIMES - One-Two-Three
CHOIRBOYS - Empire
CHRIS REA - The Road To Hell
CLIFF RICHARD - Mistletoe & Wine
CRAIG MCLACHLAN & CHECK 1-2 - Rock The Rock
DEBORAH HARRY - I Want That Man
D-GENERATION - Five In A Row
DRAGON - Summer
ELTON JOHN - Healing Hands
ELTON JOHN - Sacrifice
EURYTHMICS - Don't Ask Me Why
EURYTHMICS - Revival
GIRL OVERBOARD - I Can't Believe
GLORIA ESTEFAN - Don't Wanna Lose You
GRAYSON HUGH - Bring It All Back
GRAYSON HUGH - Talk It Over
GYAN - It's Alright
GYAN - Wait
HUMMINGBIRDS - Word Gets Around
HUNTERS & COLLECTORS - When The River Runs Dry
IAN MOSS - Mr. Rain
ICEHOUSE - Touch The Fire
INDECENT OBSESSION - Come Back To Me
INDECENT OBSESSION - Tell Me Something
JANET JACKSON - Miss You Much
JANET JACKSON - Rhythm Nation
JENNY MORRIS - Street Of Love
JIVE BUNNY & THE MASTERMIXERS - Swing The Mood
JIVE BUNNY & THE MASTERMIXERS - That's What I Like
KAOMA - Lambada
KATE BUSH - The Sensual World
KYLIE MINOGUE - Never Too Late
LIL' LOUIS - French Kiss
LINDA RONSTADT & AARON NEVILLE - Don't Know Much
LISA STANSFIELD - All Around The World
LOVE & ROCKETS - So Alive
MADONNA - Cherish
MADONNA - Oh Father
MARTIKA - I Feel The Earth Move
MARTIKA - Toy Soldiers
MAX Q - Sometimes
MAX Q - Way Of The World
MILLI VANILLI - Baby Don't Forget My Number
MILLI VANILLI - Girl I'm Gonna Miss You
MOTLEY CRUE - Dr. Feelgood
NATALIE COLE - Miss You Like Crazy
NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK - Cover Girl
NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK - Hangin' Tough
NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK - I'll Be Loving You (Forever)
NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK - This One's For The Kids
NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK - You Got It (The Right Stuff)
NICK BARKER & THE REPTILES - Make Me Smile (Come Up & See Me)
PAULA ABDUL - Cold Hearted
PETER BLAKELEY - Crying In The Chapel
PHIL COLLINS - Another Day In Paradise
RICHARD MARX - Angelia
RICHARD MARX - Right Here Waiting
RITA MACNEIL - Working Man
ROXETTE - Dressed For Success
ROXETTE - Listen To Your Heart
ROXUS - Body Heat
RUN-D.M.C. - Ghostbuster
SHAKESPEARE'S SISTER - You're History
SIMPLE MINDS - Amsterdam [EP]
STARLIGHT - Numero Uno
TAYLOR DAYNE - With Every Beat Of My Heart
TEARS FOR FEARS - Sowing The Seeds Of Love
TEARS FOR FEARS - Woman In Chains
TECHNOTRONIC & FELLY - Pump Up The Jam
TEXAS - Everyday Now
TINA TURNER - Steamy Windows
TINA TURNER - The Best
U2 - All I Want Is You
V.SPY V.SPY - Hardtimes
WARRANT - Heaven
WHITESNAKE - Fool For Loving You
NateBoi: You can find those debut positions in the following threads...

1988 Top 100 Entries: http://australian-charts.com/forum.asp?todo=viewthread&id=27237&pages=2
1989 Top 100 Entries: http://australian-charts.com/forum.asp?todo=viewthread&id=31703&pages=2
Thank-You savagegrant for the thread links. I am confused

ABSENT FRIENDS - Hallelujah, is not featured in either of these threads.
ADEVA - Warning, is featured in the 1989 Top 100 Entries. However it says entry date 6-Nov-89 - HP (35), WI (22), EP (68).
How can it have accumulated 22 weeks inside the top 100 from the 06-11-1989? Also the ARIA report i have indicates this single peaked at #038 18-02-1990. This report has #035?
So with two discrepancy's how can i be sure #068 is the debut position? & that if i were to follow the list provided i would accurate and precise information?

At which point does ARIA + Kent Music Report cross-over?
*BUMP.

Still not resolved...anyone.
NateBoi, from memory, 'Warning' peaked at #35 on the AMR chart, and #38 on ARIA. Unfortunately, it's virtually impossible to track down ARIA chart info between #51 and #100 between Jun 20th 1988 and Dec 31st 1989, as this info has never been publicly available.
Aria charts were dodgy, back then. There were so many discrepencies with the end of year charts. Let's look at Bust A Move by Young MC. This was a number one smash, hanging on the charts forever. Aria chart end of year placement was no 50. I guess only the avid chart folllower would catch this. The 1990 end of year chart was the most incorrect chart ever.
Sorry to revive a very old thread, but I was friends with an ARIA staff member back in 1999 and was told that in those days, the Year End chart was compiled by sales figures supplied by the record companies themselves (as opposed to the weekly charts, which were compiled using ARIAnet data). I had asked about it because I wanted to know how Single A could appear above Single B on the Year End chart when they were both released in the same week near the end of the year, and Single B had appeared higher on the chart in every single week since then. Both were released by different record companies, and Single A's company had reported higher overall sales figures than Single B's (presumably through stores not covered by ARIAnet at the time).

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