I think this would be a good place to record below 100 peaks from the weekly positions bulion has been recently posting Naturally some of these may have peaked higher in other weeks they weren't posted, but I have 96% of 101-120 positions since March so most should be correct.
Brilliant work Nugs, thanks for sharing your research.
Could you possibly provide any further information on the date of these? Month would do, they are hard to pinpoint a release date due to not charting in the UK.
Kim Wilde 'Million Miles Away' #154 Bananarama 'Every Shade of Blue' #124 Bananarama 'Take Me To Your Heart' #180 Chantoozies ‘I’ll Be There’ #167 Collette ‘This Will Be (Everlasting Love)’ #122 Deborah Harry 'Liar, Liar' #141 Divinyls ‘Make Out Alright’ #105 Girl Overboard ‘Chain of Fools’ #138 Gyan ‘Visualise’ #145 Indecent Obsession ‘Rebel With a Cause’ #122 Jenny Morris 'In Too Deep' #143 Jenny Morris 'Only We Can Hear #120' Jo-Beth Taylor ‘You Don’t Own Me’ #137
Thanks Nugs, all of that looks pretty spot-on and very useful to me. I wish I'd kept all my ARIA reports from 1990-98, then I'd be able to check the release dates of singles, but like an idiot I got rid of them.
I remember seeing Million Miles Away on Rage too, and buying the CD single afterwards, possibly for 99 cents, as Love Is Holy had been.
You Don't Own Me was on one of the first Smash Hits video magazines, late 1991 or early 1992.
Quite a few gaps filled by singles that didn't chart in the UK either, but now I know they charted here, particularly : For Once In Your Life by Sam Brown - I recall this being played once on Video Smash Hits Kate Bush - Eat The Music - recall seeing it on CD single Margaret Urlich - Second Best - another one they played on Video Smash Hits Max Q - Monday Night by satellite - saw this on something on ABC, might have been Countdown Revolution.
Have you ever asked about T'Pau? Would you know if Bridge Of Spies (the single) charted? I think it might have been released between Heart & Soul and China In Your Hand, and played on Rage,
Thanks Nugs, it makes sense that ARIA don't have the lower positions pre-June 1988 on their database. it's amazing that you and a few others have uncovered as much as you have, it's much appreciated.
I wonder if there is any info on positions outside the top 100 for Wendy Matthews. Some of these must have come close, particularly "TKO" and "Big" as I recall them being played on Video Hits. "Free" was played a lot on Foxtel too.
1993 TKO 1995 Say A Prayer 1997 Big 1998 I've Got To Have You 2000 Free 2001 Like The Sun
Thanks to ARIA, I have uncovered some previously unmentioned peaks and entry dates. Songs I asked about are based on my taste among songs that seemed likely to have charted and were featured on The Factory or reviewed in Smash Hits during late 1988/89.. Information in bold is new, otherwise it compliments Nugs' research. NCH = no chart history, confirmed. 1988 entries NCH could be due to there being no data below top 100.
White Lion - Wait NCH The Factory 19/03/88 Voice Of The Beehive - I Walk The Earth NCH The Factory 14/05/88 Sam Brown - Walking Back To Me NCH Smash Hits 15/06/88 Eighth Wonder - I'm Not Scared NCH The Factory 17/06/88 Smash Hits 13/07/88 House Of Schock - Middle Of Nowhere NCH The Factory 30/07/88 Pebbles - Mercedes Boy NCH The Factory 20/08/88 a-ha - The Blood That Moves The Body NCH The Factory 20/08/88 Cher - Skin Deep NCH Smash Hits 7/09/88 Eurythmics - You Have Placed A Chill In My Heart NCH The Factory 10/09/88 Smash Hits 19/10/88 Foreigner - Heart Turns To Stone NCH The Factory 17/09/88 Eurogliders - Listen NCH The Factory 24/09/88 a-ha - Touchy NCH The Factory 10/10/88 Tiffany - Feelings Of Forever NCH Smash Hits 19/10/88 Jane Wiedlin - Rush Hour #88 24/10/88 Vixen - Edge Of A Broken Heart NCH The Factory 28/10/88 Smash Hits 28/12/88 T'Pau - Secret Garden NCH The Factory 29/10/88 Prince - I Wish U Heaven NCH The Factory 12/11/88 Smash Hits 28/12/88 Human League - Love Is All That Matters NCH The Factory 12/11/88 Smash Hits 28/12/88 Debbie Gibson - Staying Together NCH The Factory 3/12/88 Big Pig - Iron Lung NCH The Factory 3/12/88 Kim Wilde - Never Trust A Stranger The Factory 12/12/88 Smash Hits 11/01/89 NCH nationally but #74 in SA/NT 12/12/88 Shakespear's Sister - (You Really) Break My Heart NCH The Factory 10/12/88 Smash Hits 22/02/89 Cher - Main Man NCH Smash Hits 14/12/88 Debbie Harry - Liar, Liar #141 30/01/89 Eighth Wonder - Baby Baby #113 06/02/89 'Til Tuesday - (Believed You Were) Lucky NCH The Factory 12/02/89 Smash Hits 10/12/88 Tiffany - All This Time #120 27/02/89 Kim Wilde - Four Letter Word #165 27/02/89 Westworld - Everything Good Is Bad NCH The Factory 19/03/89 White Lion - When The Children Cry NCH Smash Hits 5/04/89 Femme Fatale - Falling In & Out Of Love #90 10/04/89 Howard Jones - Everlasting Love #91 24/04/89 Vixen - Love Made Me #149 14/08/89 Cyndi Lauper - Heading West #117 11/12/89
Thanks for the extra information nugs. It's fascinating to put some of the pieces of a puzzle back together all these years later. ARIA have been extremely helpful and efficient, one staff member in particular has gone out of her way to fulfil my requests. As you say, I feel bad taking up so much of their time over something that may not seem that important, but I would pay for it if it were all released in book or spreadsheet form. It would be wonderful if the full data from 1988 surfaced one day, but I appreciate anything I can get. I have another list they are looking into, I'll update here if anything new comes to light. I bought all the ARIA report back issues from issue one (1990) to 1992, then subscribed from 92-98, but sadly didn't keep the hard copies.
Thanks for the release dates, much appreciated.
Nugs, is there anything of interest in the Australian artist only charts from those years that didn't make the top 100? Last edited:
Excellent. Good to be able to place that Efua song, I think I recorded it off either Rage or Video Hits at the time, and then it never charted in the top 100.
I just had a response too. Some you had already covered but we now have dates, and some other random requests. Fascinating to discover from one of the recent songs that the chart now seems to be possibly a top 300! How awesome would it be to see that (though I have less interest in current music than nostalgic stuff).
Anthony Callea - Last To Go #266 12.3.12 Chantoozies - I'll Be There #167 7.10.91 Collette - Upside Down #91 26.11.90 Collette - This will Be (An Everlasting Love) #122 8.4.91 Debbie Gibson - (This So-Called) Miracle no chart history Debbie Gibson - One Hand, One Heart no chart history Debbie Gibson - One Step Ahead no chart history Donna Summer - I Don't Wanna Get Hurt no chart history Ghetto Rose - Time Flies #103 28.8.95 Ghetto Rose - Left With The Sky #166 1.4.96 Jo Beth Taylor - You Don't Own Me #137 20.1.92 Margaret Urlich - Second Best #132 8.3.93 Margaret Urlich - All For The Love #148 26.2.96 Pat Benatar - One Love #166 17.4.89 Pat Benatar - Let's Stay Together no chart history Sam Brown - Once In Your Life #125 2.10.90 Sam Brown - Fear Of Life #135 17.5.93 Sara Isaksson - May (Feels Nothing At All) #108 13.5.96 Sheena Easton - You Can Swing It #107 22.7.91 Sheena Easton - To Anyone no chart history Stevie Nicks - Whole Lotta Trouble no chart history Tiffany - New Inside #159 3.12.90 Tina Arena - Woman's Work no chart history Wendy Matthews - T.K.O. #118 13.9.93 Wendy Matthews - Say A Prayer no chart history Wendy Matthews – Big #200 22.9.97 Wendy Matthews – Free #131 4.12.00 Wendy Matthews - Like The Sun #195 22.10.01
Some more ARIA peaks and dates to add to the list :
Concrete Blonde - Everybody Knows NO CHART HISTORY Corey Hart - Baby When I Call Your Name 27/04/1992 #139 Frente - What's Come Over Me 30/09/1996 #116 GF4 - Need Love 19/06/1995 #101 Howard Jones - The Prisoner NO CHART HISTORY Human League - Love Is All That Matters 30/01/1989 #113 The Graces - Lay Down Your Arms 09/10/1989 #127 Jenny Morris - Crackerjack Man 11/05/1992 #125 Melissa Etheridge - You Can Sleep While I Drive 18/06/1990 #105 Nik Kershaw - One Step Ahead NO CHART HISTORY Sam Brown - This Feeling 18/09/1989 #115 Scott Carne – Freedom 28/01/1991 #110 (Video Hits had it at #88, presumably AMR) Sharon O'Neill - Satin Sheets 02/07/1990 #106 Sheena Easton - Days Like This NO CHART HISTORY Sheena Easton – 101 NO CHART HISTORY Tiffany - Hold An Old Friend's Hand 12/06/1989 #161 Last edited:
Yes that would make sense about the first chart being the end of January 1989, which would be why some of our 1988 requests come back NCH. A lot of them must have come close though, especially "Never Trust a Stranger" and songs like "You Have Placed A Chill In My heart" which seemed a certainty at the time.
I had Tiffany's second album at the time, but also didn't know the title song was a single until I got a Billboard Adult Contemporary book, and saw it charted on there. It's great to have an official mainstream chart position for it though.
I recall seeing the video for "This Feeling" once on TV at around the time we now know it charted. It had been a hit in the UK in 1988 so maybe some copies made their way here earlier (or a non-charting original release, like Walking Back To Me which was reviewed in Smash Hits in June 1988 )... Last edited:
You Have Placed A Chill In My Heart was certainly the most played Savage single on FM radio, and the video was on tv a fair bit too, so I was surprised when I caught up with the old charts that it had not only missed the top 40, but the top 100 as well.
Break My Heart (You Really) was played on The Factory on 10 December 1988, and reviewed in Smash Hits on 22 February 1989, so yes that was the song I was most surprised to find had NCH. We can only hope that the late 1988 charts come to light one day, or speculate on what *might* have been in the top 200. I' am of the opinion that the pop songs featured in full on The Factory (and Video Hits) probably were taken from that week's chart, but there's no way of proving it.
These were the songs played on The Factory that in my opinion semed most likely to have charted outside the top 100 but came back as NCH
White Lion - Wait NCH The Factory 19/03/88 Voice Of The Beehive - I Walk The Earth NCH The Factory 14/05/88 Eighth Wonder - I'm Not Scared NCH The Factory 17/06/88 House Of Schock - Middle Of Nowhere NCH The Factory 30/07/88 Pebbles - Mercedes Boy NCH The Factory 20/08/88 a-ha - The Blood That Moves The Body NCH The Factory 20/08/88 Eurythmics - You Have Placed A Chill In My Heart NCH The Factory 10/09/88 Foreigner - Heart Turns To Stone NCH The Factory 17/09/88 Eurogliders - Listen NCH The Factory 24/09/88 a-ha - Touchy NCH The Factory 10/10/88 Vixen - Edge Of A Broken Heart NCH The Factory 28/10/88 T'Pau - Secret Garden NCH The Factory 29/10/88 Prince - I Wish U Heaven NCH The Factory 12/11/88 Debbie Gibson - Staying Together NCH The Factory 3/12/88 Big Pig - Iron Lung NCH The Factory 3/12/88 Shakespear's Sister - (You Really) Break My Heart NCH The Factory 10/12/88 'Til Tuesday - (Believed You Were) Lucky NCH The Factory 12/02/89 Westworld - Everything Good Is Bad NCH The Factory 19/03/89
These were reviewed in Smash Hits and also seemed likely candidates to have charted :
Cher - Skin Deep NCH Smash Hits 7/09/88 Tiffany - Feelings Of Forever NCH Smash Hits 19/10/88 Cher - Main Man NCH Smash Hits 14/12/88 Last edited:
Thanks for the Countdown Revolution information. I used to watch it religiously. Until 1986 I only had the ABC and one other regional channel, so almost everything I saw was from Countdown, Rock Arena or SA shows Trax and Music Express. Obviously Rage came along soon after, and Video Hits. I know what you mean about not knowing the proper titles of songs - You Have Placed a Chill In My Heart was played on Rage in the days when they only ran the artist and not the song title.
Nugs/Meglos, all this beyond-#100 data is fascinating. Do either of you (or does anyone else) know exactly how far the charts actually extend? Meaning, is there a hard-and-fast cut off position (i.e. #200, #500, #1000) or does it just go on and on until the last entry with the least sales of the week? I know we saw some funny numbers earlier in the year, just after ARIA's updated website went live (I think it was a Samantha Jade single that had a LW position of #874 or whatever it was) so I'd be curious to know what the deal is.
All of this also got me wondering exactly how low sales have to be to get an overall result of NCH. We can safely assume (I think) that most of the singles you guys have been enquiring about were actually released locally. Over the years, aside from certifications (which represent volume shipped to retail, not volume sold) I've never seen much actual sales data, though I've seen enough to know that some weeks it doesn't take all that many, relatively speaking, for a single to reach the lower regions of the chart. I guess my curiosity on this point is kinda related to my first question - do we assume that a) NCH means that not one solitary copy of the single in question was ever sold (or, at least, if it did sell its sales were never reported)? Or b) whatever volume was sold was never sufficient for the song to ever achieve any chart position, however far beyond #100 the total chart extends? Or c) the NCH references are only based on there being no peak position inside the Top 100?
I won't use that dreaded word *official*, because the data is always official if it comes from ARIA, irrespective of the chart position or whether it was ever published. But with all the additional references to peak positions beyond #100 that you guys (and others) have tracked down over time, it would be good to clarify exactly what NCH refers to.
Nugs can elaborate in more detail, but from the positions we've acquired, I believe that 'NCH' for singles before 1989 means they didn't reach the top 100, which at this stage seems to be what ARIA have in their database. From 1989 onwards it seems to extend to a top 200, though how far the overall chart extends is anybody's guess.
I'm insanely curious as to how many were considered "significant sales" beyond the Top 100 back then. And today, for that matter.
I guess the other thing we always need to keep in mind with this stuff - and it's kinda related to the issue of accreditations being for volume shipped to retail as opposed to volume sold at retail - is that reported sales are never definitive numbers. i.e. sales data is not collected from all retailers, only those who contribute as "ARIA chart stores" (presumably this now extends to online sales and retailers as well), so sales figures never represent every individual sale - rather, they are *representative of* total sales.
^ I remember that Geri Halliwell article, and that Mel B had fared even worse, not even making the top 500. So there is at least a top 500 - when someone wants to know, at least.
aaaaah yeah... I remember that Geri Halliwell article too. Mostly I remember thinking "WTF? Geri Halliwell has a new single?" And now I've seen it again, I also remember seeing the statement "Mel B's song has yet to chart in the Australian Top 500 singles chart after two weeks of release" and almost creaming myself at the thought of a Top 500 and what it might contain and how long it went back and how hard it would be to obtain the data... in a nutshell, I got kinda excited!
And then, clearly, I just forgot all about it
Those numbers in the Robin Thicke article are eye-opening, aren't they? They say a lot about so many things but, ultimately, that the internet killed albums! Maybe that's a tad unkind. It's not the internet. It's how retailers have chosen to make music available via the internet that's killed album sales. For the most part, music these days has become more about individual tracks than ever before, except that where they used to serve as promotional tools for an album and, occasionally, make it big in their own right, now individual tracks have the lion's share of sales - sales that, in some cases, far exceed sales of some of the highest selling albums from the past. I don't much care for it, myself, but what can you do? Last edited:
SINGLES: Samantha Jade - Circles on the Water 270 Dream - This Is Me #105 Sugababes - Soul Sound #155 Britney Spears - slumber Party #228 Nicole Scherzinger - Poison #182 Zoe Badwi - release Me #545 Anne-Marie - Heavy #219
ALBUMS: bijou Phillips - I’d Rather eat glass #250 Rachel Platten - Waves #297 Nicole Scherzinger - big Fat Lie #139 Ricki-Lee - The Singles #121 Jade Macrae - Get Me Home #238
The one thing I was most interested in was the Sugababes Soul Sound charting. I can find nowhere to confirm this was ever actually physically released when I search for it (it was on several ARIA reports in the new releases section). But online have never found a single Australian copy up for sale, which bugs me a lot as I want it haha.
It was originally released when digital sales weren’t included on the main chart so my assumption is it’s peak is terribly low due to debuting a couple years after its popularity was long gone, or it charted that low based on sales of its limited remixes physical CD. It was never commercially released as a proper CD single. Just a guess as to why.
Did Alisha's Attic the incidentals chart here i do have the single so was released here at some point in time or The Air We Breathe Indestructible was #128
Late Nights did chart NoZ (a year late, because playlists), probably around the #120ish mark because I remember seeing it in the Australian top 20 for a while.
I investigated Late Nights. It only had its position posted in the chartifacts threads once, but I can infer from the Australian artists and hitseekers charts, and other below-#100 positions posted, that...
Date
AU
AU Str
Hits
ARIA
23-Apr-18
17
6
#141
30-Apr-18
16
13
7
below #149, above #159 (Babe / I Like The Way)
7-May-18
15
13
5
below #128, above #165 (Saturday Sun / Dazed & Confused)
14-May-18
17
12
4
below #127, above #147 (NUMB / Beautiful Crazy)
21-May-18
16
13
5
below #120, above #125 (Watch / Need You)
28-May-18
19
15
9
below #136, above #197 (Audio / Killing My Time)
4-Jun-18
11
below #164 (What Would Meek Do?)
11-Jun-18
15
below #184 (In The Sky EP)
18-Jun-18
16
below #230 (Babe)
it probably peaked somewhere from #121-#124 (It only charted in the weekly Spotify top 200 in Mar-Jun 2018 and never made the iTunes top 100, so I'm pretty confident it wouldn't have had a higher peak in 2017.)
Edit: #122-#124 in fact, as Dazed & Confused was between Watch and Late Nights that week, so Late Nights can't have been right behind Watch.
I can't find anything for Kylie/Cher/Janet in the chartifacts threads. I assume the latter 2 charted somewhere (top...300?) but I doubt either Kylie song did since they only spent a day in the iTunes top 100. Last edited:
Got these positions today in case any are of interest to anyone.
Vanessa Amorosi - Gossip #113 Ricki-Lee - Giddyup #111 Ricki-Lee - Mirage (no chart history) All Saints - All Hooked Up #111 Angela Via - Picture Perfect #238 Bonnie Anderson - Rodeo #280 Bonnie Anderson - The Ones I Love #160 Britney Spears - Criminal (no chart history) Delta Goodrem - Welcome to Earth #407 Elen Levon - Over My Head #158 Elen Levon - Kingdom #304 Gwen Stefani - Spark The Fire #730 Natalie Bassingthwaighte - Not For You #153 P!nk - Secrets #141 Paulini - By My Side #716 Paulini - fireman #179 Paulini- heartbreak is over (no chart history) Scarlett Belle - Loverboy (no chart history) Vanilla - No Way No Way (no chart history)
Just wondering if anyone had any peak positions below the Top 100/can obtain positions for these songs post-100 (there is a likelihood that some of them have reached the Top 100, because I haven't thoroughly researched peaks for all of them).
Most of these are just out of personal interest - many of them have done quite well on streaming or iTunes (in terms of numbers over time, not necessarily just high positions).
Here they are:
Wonder – Naughty Boy feat. Emeli Sande *** One Chance To Dance – Naughty Boy feat. Joe Jonas *** I See Love (from “Hotel Transylvania 3”) – Jonas Blue feat. Joe Jonas *** Weak – AJR * Rhythm Inside – Calum Scott *** What I Miss Most – Calum Scott *** Tears – Clean Bandit feat. Louisa Johnson *** Disconnect – Clean Bandit feat. Marina and The Diamonds *** So Good – Louisa Johnson ***** Putting It Out There (Pride) – Wynter Gordon ***** Sun In Our Eyes – MØ & Diplo ***** It’s Everyday Bro – Jake Paul **** Fall In Line – Christina Aguilera & Demi Lovato *** Twice – Christina Aguilera *** Live In The Moment – Portugal. The Man ** Tidal Wave - Portugal. The Man ** Golden Years – M-Phazes x Ruel *** No Ordinary Life – Matt Corby *** Wild For The Night – A$AP Rocky, Skrillex, & Birdy Nam Nam * Hurt To Look – Rae Sremmurd ***** Famous – French Montana, Adam Levine *** I'm Good - Wafia ***** Bodies - Wafia ***** Hide (Tropkillaz Remix) - N.A.S.A feat. Aynzli Jones *****
Blurb: * These songs have obtained ARIA Gold/Platinum certifications in recent times so it's quite likely they've hit just outside the Top 100 at some point ("Wild For The Night" went Platinum in September 2018, and "Weak" went Gold in August 2017). ** These songs were follow-ups to the international hit "Feel It Still", and I'd be keen to see whether or not they have charted. *** These are all songs which I saw quite high up on iTunes at the time of release, which of course - with the addition of streaming to sales figures - tends to equate to very low positions. **** This one is basically just a meme song, but given Jake Paul's popularity, it wouldn't surprise me at all if it had made a dent outside the Top 100. ***** These are songs which have been quite popular in their home country, but in some cases have failed to reach mainstream charts. I believe that a couple of them are popular club choices as well [mainly the Wynter Gordon and N.A.S.A songs). ("Bodies" and "I'm Good" have both received regular airplay on Triple J - "I'm Good" reached #20 on the Australian Artist Singles Chart recently too.)
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Yep, I know right! Travis Scott scored a 2xPlatinum certification earlier this year for "Goosebumps", which hasn't so much as dented the Top 100. *On a lesser note, A$AP Rocky's "F**kin' Problems" hit 2xPlatinum this year as well, but has never charted higher than #75
I don't know about meaningless by the way - I mean if the numbers for certs are there, then they may as well apply for them. I've found more Australian artists are gaining certs with the addition of streaming, so that makes me happy because I like seeing Aussie artists having success in their home country.
You're not wrong about the iTunes chart statement; a week after Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper's "Shallow" was released, it was #3 on the Digital Sales Chart, but didn't even reach the Top 100 (although, it could've just been a chart error). In recent times, Top 10 and Top 20 placegetters missing the Top 100 is becoming a frequent occurrence. Last edited:
Question: this might be obvious, might be the wrong thread to post this in (whoops!), or might’ve been covered already (I’ve been off the air for a while so apols if it has been), but I’m a bit stuck on the question of whether streams are taken into account for certifications. Some recent chart data would suggest they are, given the volume of low-charting, or even non-charting, singles being ‘awarded’ gold, platinum or multi-platinum certifications. So how does it work? Is the same stream-to-sale equivalence calculation used to feed into certification numbers? This would seem counterintuitive to the way certifications have historically been awarded, i.e., on the volume of units shipped to retail, not on the number of units sold at retail. Surely, a stream is more akin to a sale than to a shipped unit, given its consumed as part of a paid subscription. So how is ARIA doing it? The weekly ARIA Report currently makes no reference to certifications at all — there’s neither a key defining the symbols, nor text defining what those symbols represent (I’ve been a subscriber for nearly 28 years and can’t believe I’ve never noticed that!). But the weekly ARIA website charts still provide both, as they, and their printed predecessors, always have — the key currently reads “CHART KEY <G> GOLD 35000 UNITS <P> PLATINUM 70000 UNITS <D> DIAMOND 500000 UNITS” (the latter for the Albums Chart only), and the disclaimer appears below each chart. However, said disclaimer still reads “The ARIA Charts are compiled from sales from record stores throughout Australia by ARIA”. So despite all the recent changes to the way music is consumed (not to mention the relative absence of “record stores” from today’s music landscape) ARIA still makes no formal reference to any calculation other than retail sales on either page of their publicly available charts. We know they now count streams (for singles? Albums? I’m still not clear how it actually works), so have ARIA just not updated their definitions and disclaimers? Does anyone know, definitively, how all of this works these days?
Yeah, I too am quite frustrated at times when ARIA (okay all chart companies are guilty) don't lay their cards out on the table properly. My understanding with certifications (I might be wrong though) is that ever since digital sales came into prominence, they started to be added alongside physical shipments. You buy an album/single physically and nothing happens because they've already counted their shipment, but you buy one digitally and it contributes to the certification. So nowadays with physical making up close to zero impact, single certifications are effectively representing their sales now.
As for streaming, they do in fact contribute to certifications. The reason low/non-charting singles are being certified so often is indirectly because of this, for the two reasons that songs hang around longer, and potent sales draw down faaaaar lower (I imagine the current #400 single in 2018 is getting more sales than a #150 in 2011, even though the #1's are usually lower). The market distribution is considerably more open to slow burners now (though sometimes ARIA are slow to allow certain songs on the chart naturally and so they get very sudden certifications, Travis Scott comes to mind).
And as for how exactly they're counted...we don't really know for certain. ARIA used to have a 175 streams = 1 sale ratio, but they've since re-weighted it to give more weight to paid-subscription streams (as opposed to free, ad-supported accounts). They've never disclosed the new figures, but the UK does 1:100 for paid streams and 1:600 for free streams and I wouldn't be surprised if ARIA's is similar or just the same. When it comes to albums, they take the average streaming sales of the top 10 tracks (though the top 2 are pushed down to the average as outliers, so albums no one listens to can't just thrive off of hot singles). These count to their chart positions and I'm 95% sure they count to certifications too, though album certifications are so often slow that I sometimes question it.
6 years late but can throw some light on two releases mentioned above 'Golden' debuted and peaked at #513 and Janet's 'Made For Now' debuted and peaked at #499. Kylie really needs an updated chart history as the one that i got the info from goes up to 2018 and she's had many singles since then but it's not going to be me that requests it.
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Naturally some of these may have peaked higher in other weeks they weren't posted, but I have 96% of 101-120 positions since March so most should be correct.
Indestructible was #128
