Looking through the top 100 weekly singles for 1990 and 1991 and lately i've noticed a common occurrence happening. It's probably coincidence but the fact that it happens repeatedly makes me wonder...Basically you will get weeks where an artist who perhaps has more than one single charting will have two songs at back to back positions. For example check out the top 40 for 3/2/91. Ac/dc have two songs at #30 and #29 (moneytalks and thunderstruck) and it happened with john farnnham in late 1990 with chain reaction and that's freedom being at consecutive numbers. This happens quite often with artists in 1991 and makes me wonder could it be more than just coincidence? I have yet to analyse 1992 charts so don't know if it continued.
It's more likely to be coincidence but for it to happen a lot in 1991 and then to peter off just seems odd to me. Impossible to know without the raw sales data on how much those songs sold. In the first half of 1992 it happened 3 times, two times outside the top 50 with Clivillies and Cole and Sabrina Johnston and one time in the Top 50 with the KLF. I see now that it happened twice with those two AC/DC singles. (#30 & 29 and #22 and #21 almost a month earlier)
I get what you are saying nugs(at least i hope i do),it's always bound to happen here and there as you have pointed out with those examples, however in the time since my last post i have been doing my homework in order to have actual numbers rather than the vagueness at the top of the thread. In 1991 this thing that i mention of artists having two of their singles back to back in the top 100 happened 7 times in the 6 months from january to june and a huge 12 times from july to december with three artists having this happen twice in the entire year. In comparison looking at the charts for 1992 we find this instance happening 4 times from january to june and only 5 more times in the months from july to december. As you say nugs it has to be coincidence otherwise what's the reason for doing it
From a statistical point of view, the best way to look at this would be to not just count the instances of back to back entries, but compare it to cases of artists having their songs separated by perhaps 1, or within 5 places. See if that strikes as statistically significant compared to other nearby years. This is assuming the implication is on flubbed numbers or a sort of bulk purchasing pattern that was only briefly occurring.
Something else I've been interested in over the years is where songs had their chart runs close to each other as they were rising and falling in the Top 50. It is like they were "near neighbours". I've number crunched quite a few occurrences so will post a few of these every day or two.
Note: these are 'ARIA Top 50 only' stats from the '90s. I looked at songs at least 9 weeks on the chart.
Today we show that 'Love Will Never Do (Without You)' was always within 11 places of 'Love Takes Time' during its 14 week Top 50 run, and amazingly never more than 4 places apart for the first 10 of those 14 weeks.
'Fading Like A Flower' averaged just 3.77 places apart from 'Where Are You Now' over the 13 weeks it charted within the Top 50.
'Key West Intermezzo' was often 1 or 2 places from 'Ready Or Not' and was never further than 12 places away over its whole 10 week span.
Some more close ones... This first one I think I recall. Two big charting dance hits in 1991, never too far from each other on the chart. In fact, 'Wiggle It' and 'Gonna Make You Sweat' were insanely close there for an 11 week stretch. That average (3.71) could have been so much better if not for the first and last week of the chart run of 'Wiggle It', which fell away quicker.
'Mrs. Robinson' and 'Sleeping Satellite' may seem like an unusual pairing, but while The Lemonheads played out their 13 week run in the Top 50, Tasmin Archer was one time 7 places away, and otherwise within 5 places for all other weeks.
What does Celine Dion's 'Falling Into You' and The Smashing Pumpkin's '1979' have in common? Not much, right? Actually, they were incredibly close on the chart. Never more than 4 places apart for the middle 11 week stretch of their respective chart runs. They swapped places a few times, but Celine did deny '1979' a Top 15 peak. Not much of a surprise they were close on the EOY ARIA chart too: #94 for 1979' and #98 for 'Falling Into You'.
When you look at the positions of the mariah and janet singles outside the top 40 that gap never is too great but both singles exited the top 40 at different times. Mariah's #42 position is from the chart of 7/4/91, while Janet's #42 position is from 2 weeks earlier.
Love Takes Time 42-51-56-77-86 Love Will Never Do (Without You) 42-47-50-81-90
I've discovered that both featured on the compilation album around that time called WIGGLE'N'SWEAT '91. Maybe more than coincidence? It seems an obvious pairing. The circular promotion of club hit, compilation album promotion, radio airplay and video music shows probably all contributed to the similar timing.
I remember 'Wiggle 'n' Sweat '91'. It was one of the last compilation albums of its kind to add the year to the title - as had been the norm throughout the 70s and 80s. From memory, there was only 'Here We Go '91', 'Hits 4 U '92', '100% Hits '92 Volume 3' (the third volume in the series was called that, for some reason), 'Give It Some '93', 'Sweat It Out '93', 'Hit Machine '93' (the first volume was called that instead of Hit Machine 1) and '100% Hits '97: the music' (in lieu of volume 22) after it. The 100% Hits (started in 1991), Take 40 Australia (only 1 volume, 1991), Can't Beat the Music (1992, only 3 volumes), and Hit Machine (started in 1993) series came next, and then of course (much) later, So Fresh. Last edited:
Out of sheer curiosity i looked at the chart positions for Wiggle It and Gonna Make You Sweat when they left the top 40 to see if the close positioning continued and it could not have been further apart.
Wiggle It (leaves top 40 12/5) 52-60-86-OUT Gonna Make You Sweat -(leaves 19/5) 44-63-67-77-82-OUT
Pretenders comeback single of the mid '90s 'I'll Stand By You' was joined by Marcella Detroit's stand-out solo hit 'I Believe' for 16 weeks on the ARIA Top 50 chart, before both exited at the same time. When 'I Believe' fell away from the Top 20, 'I'll Stand By You' caught up within a couple of weeks, to keep their average below 4 places apart.
F.C.B.'s 'Excalibur' rocketed into the Top 2 just 2 weeks on the Top 50 chart. But Merril Bainbridge's 'Under The Water' moved up quick enough at that time to keep a low average. 12 of the 14 weeks they were in the Top 50 together, the two songs were no more than 4 places apart.
'Slide' and 'Body Movin' ' peaked at #29 and #28 respectively in 1999, and were near enough to average just 3.75 places apart over 12 weeks.
Good example of The Pretenders And Marcella Detroit dave. Looking at their respective positions when they both leave the top 40 in the same week it's close for 1 week but then gets wider.
I'll Stand By You 44-54-66-85-90 (out) I Believe 46-69-87-94
The last week 'i believe' is on the chart it's 9 places away from the pretenders which it hadn't been quite as close the past 2 weeks before. Had marcella detroit hung in the top 100 for an extra week you might have seen the two singles very close to each other again. Last edited:
'Mary Had A Little Boy' and 'On The Way Up' spent most of their Top 50 chart run between the Top 20 and 30. After 11 shared weeks in the Top 50, they averaged 3.64 places apart.
Jimmy Nail and Riff had their one and only ARIA Top 50 chart appearances simultaneously. 'Ain't No Doubt' and 'White Men Can't Jump' stayed within 6 places of each other over a 16 week span. On the end-of-year 1992 ARIA chart, the songs were #33 and #34.
Jennifer Lopez's 'If You Had My Love' denied Britney Spears a #1 with 'Sometimes'. For 15 of the simultaneous 17 weeks Top 50 chart run, the two songs were no more than 4 places apart.
Martika's 'Love ... Thy Will Be Done' tracked fairly close to UB40's 'Here I Am (Come And Take Me)' especially early in their chart run, where they were back to back within the Top 5 for 4 straight weeks.
Blind Melon's 'No Rain' and Radiohead's 'Creep' had reasonably close chart runs within the ARIA Top 50, although 'Creep' was in the Top 10 for 6 charts (compared to 2 for 'No Rain'). Both left the Top 20 and Top 40 in the same weeks. Despite one being perhaps more remembered than the other (depending on your tastes), the two songs averaged just 2.8 places apart over 15 weeks.
Although there was a delayed start to the jump into the Top 10 for 'Your Woman', once it found that surge '2 Becomes 1' was released just in time to be closely aligned with White Town for the remaining chart weeks (ARIA Top 50). Both occupied the Top 5 with similar timing and then fell away reasonably quickly from the Top 10, falling between 4 and 10 places per week thereafter, over the next 6 weeks.
'Can't Stop This Thing We Started' moved into the ARIA Top 50 the same week as Prince's 'Gett Off' (both in the top-half at that). Both also exited the Top 50 after 14 chart appearances. For the majority of weeks, the two songs were 5 places apart or less.
'Please Forgive Me' and Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince's 'Boom! Shake The Room' are among the closest paired songs so far on this thread. Averaging just 2 places apart over 18 weeks, the two songs occupied the Top 2 side-by-side for 5 consecutive charts, and were within 2 places of each other for 15 of the 18 charts that 'Please Forgive Me' occupied the ARIA Top 50.
Despite each having a kind of see-saw chart run earlier on, 'Movin' Up' and 'In The Summertime' averaged just 3.8 places apart over 15 charts, including peaking in the same week, and having 8 consecutive charts where they were placed within 3 places of each other.
More close ones... with the difference no more than 8 places on any week for all pairings, while both songs were within the ARIA Top 50:
▪ 'Better The Devil You Know' swaps the lead with 'Step By Step' 3 times, never more than 5 places away over 13 weeks.
▪ 'Are You Gonna Go My Way?' and 'Cats In The Cradle' are back-to-back for 10 straight weeks (with Lenny Kravitz denying Ugly Kid Joe a much longer stay at #1). Both fall away at reasonable pace from the Top 10.
▪ 'Have I Told You Lately' follows a similar chart course to 'In Your Arms', although Rod Stewart peaks at #12, compared to Bon Jovi's #10 peak. Their lead changes only twice. The two tracks are within 3 places of one another over 10 of the 13 weeks they graced the Top 50 together.
It's funny how you forget things over time. 'Suicide Blonde' had a fairly short run in the ARIA Top 50, just 12 weeks (I had to double check this). Over those weeks, it was closely placed to Jon Bon Jovi's 'Blaze Of Glory'. Both were in the Top 2 for one week, and otherwise occupied the Top 3 for 3 other weeks. What I'd also forgotten was how long 'Blaze Of Glory' was at #1 (6 weeks). 10 of the 12 weeks they were in the Top 50 together, the pair were no more than 5 places apart, and within 2 places for 7 of those weeks.
Two dance songs rising and falling in sync once again! Another coincidence was, for both acts, this was their first charter on the ARIA Top 50, and each only had a few lower follow up chart successes within the next year. 'Slave To The Music' finally took the lead when 'Give It Up' slipped from #1 to #3 on the chart, but East 17 would deny a #1 placing for Twenty 4 Seven. In the weeks to follow, 'Slave...' and 'Give It Up' would swap their lead a few times as they moved down the chart at moderate pace. In the last 13 weeks that they charted together within the Top 50, the two were never more than 4 places apart.
CDB's 'Hook Me Up' and Harry Connick Jr's '(I Could Only) Whisper Your Name' peaked at #11 and #15 respectively. After 14 shared weeks in the Top 50, they averaged 3.36 places apart, and no more than 8 places over that time.
Some less conventional rock, pop reggae, metal, AC, boy band and europop pairings this time:
▪ 'Black Hole Sun' bulleted into the ARIA Top 50 as 'Baby I Love Your Way' was already climbing into the Top 10. From then on, the two songs were near enough to each other to have a low 3.6 place average over 15 weeks. 'Baby I Love Your Way' kept ranking higher than 'Black Hole Sun' until both had left the Top 50.
▪ 'The Memory Remains' made an abrupt debut into the chart at #6 before slipping back to #18. Then it would hover within the Top 20 for a while, not too far from 'Tell Him' that was also hanging around. Their decline out of the Top 20 was similarly timed. The two tracks were within 5 places of each other over the later 10 week period.
▪ 'All I Have To Give' (#32 EOY) and 'Lollipop' (#19 EOY) debuted in the Top 50 side by side, peaked back-to-back at #4 and #3 respectively, spent 10 weeks in the Top 10 each, and were within 3 places of each other for 12 of the 17 weeks they were in the ARIA Top 50 together.
For the next three pairings, the difference is no more than 8 places on any week:
▪ 'Hot Chilli Woman' stays near to 'Ring Ring Ring (Ha Ha Hey) over its ARIA Top 50 run. Never more than 7 places apart, they averaged just 3.08 places difference over 12 weeks.
▪ In the 12 weeks George Michael's 'Spinning The Wheel' occupied the Top 50, Neneh Cherry's 'Woman' was within 5 places, except for 3 of those weeks. The pair swapped the lead 6 times.
▪ 'Beautiful Stranger' was accompanied by 'I Want It That Way' for all of its 16 week ARIA Top 50 run in 1999. Over that time, the two songs were never more than 5 places apart. The longer chart run for 'I Want It That Way' allowed for a better #25 end-of year placing, compared with #34 for Madonna.
Both Milli Vanilli and Dannii Minogue had rather quick climbs and falls with their hits of autumn 1990. Back-to-back on 8 different charts with 'Blame It On The Rain' and 'Love And Kisses', the 3.93 place average could have been much closer if not for the 20 place difference in their debut week.
Electric Hippies' 'Greedy People' and Gin Blossoms' 'Hey Jealousy' had more in common than their musings of less than desirable human traits. The two songs were placed within 2 places of each other for 10 of the 11 weeks they both occupied the ARIA Top 50. Their divergence occurred in the 11th week, but both songs (in separate weeks) exited the Top 50 from #49.
Lauryn Hill's double A-side single of 1998/99 had a longer chart run than Jennifer Love Hewitt's 'How Do I Deal', but over the 15 weeks the songs were charting in the Top 50 together, the singles were not more than 6 places apart, and were back-to-back 4 times. Both singles also peaked at #8 on ARIA.
It seems 1997 was a key year for longer charting "near neighbour" hits. From memory, it was around this time singles were starting to have lengthy chart runs more often, compared to the earlier '90s.
▪ I find this to be a strong case of two songs propelling each other up the chart. Contemporary R&B had been around much of the '90s but it was hit or miss in Australia, especially compared to the USA market. Babyface-produced 'Last Night' was slowly rising within the ARIA Top 50, almost in the Top 20 after 5 weeks. Just like Az Yet, Ginuwine (with the help of budding producer Timbaland) were looking for their breakthrough single in Australia, as 'Pony' rated slightly better up to this point, making it to the Top 20 level at steady pace. Over the next 11 weeks, the two songs would be within 3 places of each other, including an initial slow climb within the lower Top 20 before bulleting in sync into the Top 3. 'Last Night' peaked at #2, with 'Pony' peaking at #3 on the same 4 (broken) weeks. Somehow, 'Pony' stayed within 7 places of 'Last Night' for all the remaining weeks they both occupied the Top 50. Even some reviews of these songs make some reference to either the other song or the awkward lyrics on offer.
▪ Chances are, if you recall any countdowns when Matchbox 20's 'Push' first charted in Australia, Mr. President's 'Coco Jamboo' was probably placed fairly close. Over 27 shared weeks in the ARIA Top 50, the songs averaged just 3.19 places apart, including a stretch of 20 charts where they were no more than 5 places away. I'd recalled that 'Push' hovered near the lower Top 10 for a while, but now I realise 'Coco Jamboo' was doing the same for just that bit longer.
▪ Speaking of hovering near your chart peak, 'Together Again' did just that between its peak of #4 and #6 (over 9 weeks). 'You Sexy Thing' did the same, but was very stable, with its 6 consecutive weeks at a peak of #6, joined by a further 5 #7 placings on either side of this. Janet did her part to keep T.Shirt just outside of the Top 5. Most amazing was an average separation of just 2.4 places over 25 weeks for these two big singles. For a 17 week stretch, the two songs were just 2 places apart, a reflection of their slow movement on the charts over that time. It is no wonder some reviews also mention each song's strong chart run, which was interpreted as either a good or poor thing at the time.
I've noticed from looking at my notes for the 90's that 1990 had a number of songs charting over 20 weeks. Songs such as 'More Than Words Can Say' 'Freedom '90' and 'Just The Way It Is, Baby' managed to do over 5 months on the top 100. There didn't seem as many in 1991. B.A.D II 's single 'Rush' being an exception spending 47 weeks total in the top 100 in 1991/1992
More an ARIA question than observation,for anyone out there that has the answer. Boney M's 'Mega Mix' is listed as a new entry in 1993, yet aria has it on the aria report chart dated 21st feb that it's total weeks on the chart is 10, and by that point it had been charting in 1993 for 4 weeks. It also lists it's highest position as #72 whereas in 1993 it had thus far peaked at #77
I don't know if it was labelled as a new entry in 1993 on the ARIA Report or if that's just from the person who compiled the spreadsheet, but it's possible they changed their mind part-way through the chart run; that did happen with an Atomic Kitten single in 2001: https://australian-charts.com/forum.asp?todo=viewthread&id=45348#9
Thanks @392. Yeah it was the spreadsheet that labelled it as a new entry. The Aria report from it's re-entry week is missing but one that shows 100-61 for the 14/2 lists it as having been on the chart for 9 weeks,and then the second half of the chart for the following week lists it as 10 so i figured it had to be a re-entry. I thought it had entered in 1992 and had missed it.
ARIA's chart database unfortunately tends to treat numerous separate releases as being the same title, so e.g. Boney M.'s 'Megamix' single in 1993 is treated as though it was the same as the 1989 release, just re-entering the chart rather than being a new, separate entry.
What puzzled me is that i found reference via wiki of the track in 1989 but figured it was a new mix that had entered the chart in 1993. Since it hadn't cracked the top 50 in 1989 there was no way at the time for me to tell if it had charted prior. If it's the same mix just re-entered when i reach 1993 on my database i'll add a note, since the aria info from june 88 to december 89 vanished into thin air
Nicki French's dance cover of 'Total Eclipse Of The Heart' had a strong chart run, joined by the song that kept it out of #1 'Here's Johnny!'. Both songs moved into the ARIA Top 10 in the same week, and also exited in the same week 12 weeks later. For 16 straight weeks, the two singles were just 1 or 2 places apart, including a similarly paced decline down the chart.
Bon Jovi's 'This Ain't A Love Song' made an instant Top 5 presence, but didn't have a long chart run. JX's 'You Belong To Me' was already in the Top 10 at that time. For the 12 weeks both songs were in the ARIA Top 50 together, they were within 3 places of each other on 10 charts. Their lead swapped 5 times.
Keith Sweat's 'Twisted' was charting over all the weeks Whitney Houston's 'Step By Step' occupied the Top 50. Averaging just 2.6 places away, the two singles were never more than 6 places apart over 15 weeks, and were back-to-back 7 times.
After a 10 place gap when Wilson Phillips first moved into the ARIA Top 50, 'Hold On' stayed within 4 places of 'I Don't Want To Be With Nobody But You' by Absent Friends for the next 14 weeks. If it weren't for the bigger differences at the 1st and 16th weeks, the 3.44 place average difference could have been under 2.5.
Bobby Brown's 'Humpin' Around' had a relatively short Top 50 run for a #1 hit. In the meantime Snap's 'Rhythm Is A Dancer' had moved into the Top 10 in the same week. For all 14 weeks both songs were in the ARIA Top 50, they were never more than 5 places apart. Their lead changed 7 times over these weeks. 'Rhythm Is A Dancer' (#15 EOY) had the longer chart run, but 'Humpin' Around' (#25 EOY) had played its part to keep Snap! out of the Top 2.
In the week Janet Jackson's 'Runaway' debuted in the ARIA chart at #20, Peter Andre's 'Mysterious Girl' had also climbed into the Top 20. For 14 consecutive charts, the two singles would be within 4 places. Both songs peaked at #8, and both songs had broken Top 10 runs, although at slightly different times.
Late to the party with the back-to-back positions thing, but speaking as someone who spent most of my income on buying singles for the vast majority of the 90s... I frequently found myself at the record store buying an artist's latest single *and* buying the one they last released at the same time. I guess when I found that I liked a new single, often I became more inclined to buy the previous release too. With almost every example of this you see, it's one of them on its way up the chart, meeting the other on its way down the chart, which kinda makes sense if my theory is right. Or else it really is just coincidence.
Here's something for you to research dave. What singles by madonna or kylie managed to chart for over 20 weeks in the 90s. Kylie i know had a run of singles that would just fall short of the 20 week run and i know madonna charted for i think maybe 25 weeks with vogue. Those two artists just seemed to have singles that debuted and charted high but also plummeted quite fast